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Zenan Plains - Site Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Legend of the Past on January 17, 2006, 01:59:10 pm
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I'm rather excited by this game. I want to see how KH's and CoM's story continues, find out more about the new characters, Axel, Roxas and Namine, not to mention the rest of the XIII Order. Also, I'd like to see how all the characters changed. I saw the opening sequence and they show an older Kairi, and not in the schoolgirl uniform. With the same hair shade, basically the same face, but taller and with a head whose size matches her body.
Sora seems roughly the same, except he has black clothes. Goofy and Donald have their CoM clothes, and Rikku and King Micky do seem to wear XIII Order cloaks.
Anyway, what are your opinions on the upcoming title?
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I wish they'd stick a Chrono character in there somewhere.
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I'm bursting with joy.
I'm not all that thrilled with it really.
A few costume changes? Whoopie. New characters? Great.
But for some reason, having a sequel to a mismatch of characters deserves to have a different set of afforsaid characters, to realise the full spread of er... characters.
The KH series has never really done it for me.
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I'm really looking forward to this game.
Character wise, I think they did a good job with the new designs. Kairi is much hotter, and Sora looks alot better. It may just look like he wears black now, but hes alot taller. Taller than Goofy.
I can't wait to have loose ends tied up in this too, with King Mickey, Riku, etc. Also, the Organization are interesting too, not to mention that Axel kicks ass.
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Nice new avatar Sentenal, but somehow I prefered the older one.
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Hector>Ephraim. Hector is statistically the best unit EVER in a Fire Emblem game.
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Yeah, I noticed the change in avatar. Kinda took me off guard.
As for KH...I love the series, though the gameplay of CoM left me less than thrilled. The story and script are great...but the card thing? Ugh. And playing through all the same worlds as the first game was obnoxious. And personally I'm not a big fan of the XIII, but eh...their cloaks are cool, heh.
As for KH2...I'm so ridiculously excited for it, I can barely hold it in. I'm loving everything about it so far.
...and what are you talking about with Kairi and school-girl uniforms? She never wore one...o_O But I agree, she's pretty damn hot in this one...w00t!
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Blame Wikipedia. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kairi_%28Kingdom_Hearts%29)
She doesn't even look like Kairi there, but if they say so.
Ah, Hector the great! Undoubtbly the best character in every FE.
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On the one hand, I hope they'll include more pre-FFVII characters in KH2 besides Setzer Gabbiani... but on the other hand, seeing how Setzer's design is in it, I don't know if that's such a good idea.
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I'm really excited about this game. Loved the first one and I'm pretty sure I'll love this one. And it would be cool if they had a CT or CC character in there.
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Who, exactly? Though Lynx could serve as a decent bad guy, and Kid COULD make a good appearance, making a CT world would be, hmm, too much trouble? Maybe putting them in Traverse Town and Hollow Bastion, or whichever new world gathers the Square characters together...
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Hm... I'm not really sure who they would add. And I've never thought about a CT world... I'm beginning to think differently now. Voices. What would they sound like? I don't want them to kill the characters with terrible voices.
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Kid would have to have an australian accent... Lynx would probably have a deep, growl-kind of voice... It's all pretty much set up and ready.
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Are you kidding? Zeal would make the perfect CT world!
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Kairi in school girl (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/61/Kairi2.jpg/200px-Kairi2.jpg) cloths.
Kairi in normal (I guess) (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/darksentenal/kairi1.jpg) cloths.
Has anyone seen the Intro movie to KH2? They uploaded it to 1up.com, I think. In the intro, it has a scene where Sora is fighting Marluxia (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/darksentenal/marluxia1.jpg).
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Silvercry in 1995:
“Enix and Square are working together to make a game? That will never work! The companies are too different!"
Enter Chrono Trigger.
"Well don’t I look stupid..."
Silvercry in 2002:
“Square and Disney are working together to make a game? That will never work! The companies are too different!"
Enter Kingdom Hearts.
"You know, I'm just going to shut up now..."
I cant wait to play this game either. I didn’t t really expect the first one to be as fun as it was, and was pleasantly surprised. Although I wonder why I like it so much at times. Its not like the story was all that, and the game play was nothing I haven’t seen before. Maybe it appealed to the Final Fantasy fan boy in me. Or perhaps it was because it made Disney palatable again. Whatever the reason, it’s a franchise I plan on following for a while yet.
(SPOILERS AHOY!)
…unless they pull another Chain of Memories. I cannot stand card-based combat games. Or card games in general for that matter. I struggled through the game for the story's sake, but I’ll never play it again. Reverse/Rebirth went a long way to redeeming Riku in my eyes; I had writen him off as another “Anakain Skywalker” type charater. You know, the self-confident 'bad-boy' wiling to do anything to save the girl he loves -- even if it means doing something horrible (in Anakin's case, becoming a Sith Lord, in Riku's case, turning to the Darkness, and aligning himself with Malfesecnt(sp?) and later Ansem). Characters like that always wind up losing that which they sought to save as a direct result of that choice (Anakin's actions caused Padme's death, Riku lost his body to Ansem and was "trapped" within Kingdom Hearts, "forever" separated from Kairi). Fear of loss is a tragic flaw that has been done to death, and I personally see it as a sign of weakness.
However in the Reverse/Rebirth portion of CoM, Riku not only showed remorse for his choices, but tried his up most to confront, defeat, and atone for what darkness he had wrought in the first game. This actually makes him a stronger character for the journey. It easy to always do the "right thing" (like Sora), but to start down a wrong path, realize your errors, face your mistakes and seek to correct them on your way back to the right path (or the twilight road to dawn, if you will) takes true strength, and I cant wait to see where the twilight road will take Riku and Mickey in KH2.
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Has anyone seen the Intro movie to KH2? They uploaded it to 1up.com, I think. In the intro, it has a scene where Sora is fighting Marluxia (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/darksentenal/marluxia1.jpg).
Marluxia was a pansy. Yeah, he had a wicked scythe, but what was that crap he was throwing at me in the last fight? Sakura petals?? WTF??? He needed to die just on principle.
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Marluxia was a pansy. Yeah, he had a wicked scythe, but what was that crap he was throwing at me in the last fight? Sakura petals?? WTF??? He needed to die just on principle.
I wouldn't call him a pansy, although that might suit him pretty good, since he attacks with... flowers... Anyway, I just thought it was cool that they included that fight.
Btw, Silvercry, I never did Riku's story in CoM, could you give a plot summary of just what exactly happend? I don't care about spoilers, I've already done Sora's story.
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Oh, you were talking about the new Kairi. I'd never seen her in schoolgirl clothes before now. Hmm. Yeah, she looks better in the intro. The intro is amazing. Seeing Donald and Goofy in full CG graphics was...just...gaaaaawwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...soooooo awesome!!
A CT world would be awesome. They could make it a huge world including the time traveling to a small extent. Maybe the base of the world would be the End of Time, then they could go to a few places in specific time periods. Crono would be part of the team, he and Sora would tag up for X-Strike, and on his own he could cast Luminaire. With him in the party, they could open the special chests.
God that would be awesome. At least to have some of the characters in the game somewhere somehow, maybe in Hollow Bastion or something (since Hollow Bastion will serve as the Traverse Town for KH2).
And I agree that they need FF characters before 7. I'm getting so sick of Nomura's characters. I'm glad they brought in Vivi, but...others! Others! Fighter! Cecil! Rydia! Bartz! Galuf! Black Mage! Terra! Locke! Celes! Gah!
MOG!!!
...alright, breathing...
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A CT world would be awesome. They could make it a huge world including the time traveling to a small extent. Maybe the base of the world would be the End of Time, then they could go to a few places in specific time periods. Crono would be part of the team, he and Sora would tag up for X-Strike, and on his own he could cast Luminaire. With him in the party, they could open the special chests.
My thoughts exactly.
Another question though. I havent been watching the status on KH2 recently, are u going to be able to go back to Neverland? Cause it pissed me off we couldnt actually go to Neverland at all...we were stuck on a crappy pirate ship...that sucked.
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Another question though. I havent been watching the status on KH2 recently, are u going to be able to go back to Neverland? Cause it pissed me off we couldnt actually go to Neverland at all...we were stuck on a crappy pirate ship...that sucked.
Nope.
http://www.kh2.co.uk
Best site I can find about KH2. I haven't looked my absolute hardest, but it's a kick-ass site that seems pretty credible. Plus they have music and videos. Nice.
I'm still stuck on Sora's story in CoM...I really hate the gameplay. But I'm enjoying the story, except for going through all the worlds again...augh. I'm looking forward to Riku's, though.
...and personally, I don't really like the XIII Organization...I guess it's just me, though. Or I haven't given them a proper chance, yet...who knows. Time will tell with KH2 and finishing CoM and all.
And I know I've been repeating myself. But I guess I feel it deserves such repetition and...I dunno, stuff.
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Yes, I have seen the Sora vs. Marluxia battle in the intro. It actually flashes between Riku vs. Ansem and Sora vs. Marluxia, though they kind of mixed up the ending of the intro, as in not being totally in sync with the actual CoM ending.
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God that would be awesome. At least to have some of the characters in the game somewhere somehow, maybe in Hollow Bastion or something (since Hollow Bastion will serve as the Traverse Town for KH2).
Hollow Bastion won't be the "Traverse Town" of KH2, from what I've heard. I heard it was going to be a place called "Twilight Town", or something.
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Yeah, the BHK comes from there... I wonder if Traverse Town will appear there regardless, and if you will meet once again the characters that inhabited the town.
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Hollow Bastion won't be the "Traverse Town" of KH2, from what I've heard. I heard it was going to be a place called "Twilight Town", or something.
Hollow Bastion will be playing a major role though I think. It always was my favourite world. I think it was because it wasnt Disney and the fact that it was massive castle which you could actually scale in a way that made its height clear to the player.
I'm still stuck on Sora's story in CoM...I really hate the gameplay. But I'm enjoying the story, except for going through all the worlds again...augh. I'm looking forward to Riku's, though.
I hated CoM so much I gave it to a friend for free. I could not stand the gameplay to a point where I would have called it "hard". I know the general storyline so I mean I dont feel any need to play it.
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From what I read, Traverse Town is nowhere to be seen, and Twilight Town will only be played as the other keyblade-bearing character. Sora and co are there, but not as playable characters...I'm kinda confused by that. It's like that character runs around doing mini-games and such...whatever. Time wil tell.
But in either case, that site is explicit that Hollow Bastion is the base, what with Leon, Yuffie and Aerith fixing it up back to normal and making it more homely.
Check out that site. It's good.
I finished CoM. Admittedly, I cheated. I don't have a problem cheating on a game you've either A) already beaten normally, or B) aren't enjoying playing normally, and will not finish without cheating. Like how I've been after playing through FFX the first time. Guh...
The story is fantastic. The script is brilliant, the characters are great, and I've come to grow an appreciation for the Organization after that...except that I can't keep the names straight.
But you're right, the KH2 intro is a bit misleading on the CoM events...but still wicked cool none-the-less!
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How exactly did you cheat? Because for me to beat Marluxia, I need to cheat to beat it.
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How exactly did you cheat? Because for me to beat Marluxia, I need to cheat to beat it.
This is just what i didnt like about CoM, it was just too difficult for its own good. And I think that may have turned a lot of people away from it.
And I guess Mystik used a cheating device, I dunno...
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I'd have to agree with you there. The first game was so easily approachable by hardcore and casual gamers alike. Even my wife played it all the way though. When she was done, she liked it so much she re-played again on Expert. To give you a frame of refence on how impressive this is, the last game she played of her own free will was Mario Kart. On the SNES. When it first came out.
But she say down with CoM for five minutes before throwing my GBA(SP) to the ground in disgust. Can't say I blame her.
I refused to let that damn card system beat me, though. I must have spent more time on the card screen than the actual game. Arranging, shuffling, re-shuffling. What I've learned from all that is this:
Never use slights. Ever. In fact, when you level up, spend all your points on increasing your card capacity. Hit points are almost secondary in importance. The only exception is Trinity Limit, and even that one should only be use in your swamped and desperate. NEVER on bosses.
The Zero card is your God. Worship it. There shalt be no card in your deck before Zero. Show your devotion by using at much as possible to card break your foe. Especially bosses. It really loves that.
The best time to heal is when your foe is recharging his deck. Getting card-broke while healing sucks a level of ass never before seen on this mortal coil.
I almost threw the GBA myself when i started Riku's story and discovered I could ht re-arrange my deck. But in the end, it was almost better that way, as I spent less time in the sub-screen and more time using the power of Darkness to kick Heartless ass. I get why Ansem was so ga-ga about Darkness now. It rocks.
LOOK AT ME! I'VE GOT SPOILERS!
Speaking of which, believe it or not, I already sumerised Riku’s story in my last post, Sentenal. Basically Riku is warped to the basement of Castle Oblivion by a man known as DiZ, a being of neither of Darkness nor Light. About the same time Sora and co. are heading for the top floor, losing more memories with every step, Riku is heading up to the ground floor, charged by DiZ to face the darkness -- and the shadow of Ansem within is own heart. He re-visits all the Disney Worlds (AGAIN), only the bosses of each serve as representations of his own weakness and fear of the darkness (correct me if I'm wrong, Mystik3eb, its been a while since I beat it) All the while, Ansem is whispering in his ear to give in to him again, to allow the Darkness overwhelm, him, which would enable Ansem to reclaim Riku's body. King Mickey aids Riku in resisting said temptations, and can also be summoned by way of the Mickey card in battle. Niame also offers to help him seal away the darkness in his heart (after the death of Marluxia, at Sora’s hands) but by now Riku knows that this is something he must do himself
Long story short, the constant temptation eventually backfires on Ansem, as Riku grows more confident through his travels on the lower levels of the Castle. Riku, no linger afraid of the Darkness, can know use it liberally -- but no longer allows it to use him. Beholden to neither the light or the darkness, he faces Ansem one final time, and defeats him, freeing himself. Mickey, inspired and impressed by Riku actions, says something along the lines of: "Until now, I though that darkness was always bad. But you’ve shown me a new path. I want to walk this path with you, and see where it leads."
As the game closes, Riku and Mickey are seen leaving Castle Oblivion, wearing the same cloaks as those worn by the Organization, when they are met by DiZ. DiZ asks Riku if would take the path to darkness, or to light, to which Rikue opts to take the middle path: The Twilight Road to Dawn.
It is worth mentioning that in the course of all that, Riku comes across two other Organization members, whom he defeats handily. It also bear mentioning that Mickey is sure he has met DiZ before, but cant remember where. I think there is a connection between Ansem and DiZ, but I'm not sure what it is. And until the KH2 comes out in the US, I don’t want to know.
SPOILERS END
Whew, i think that's my longest post here thus far...
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Final Fantasy charecters and disney do not work. Disney Charecters are just stupid.
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Final Fantasy charecters and disney do not work. Disney Charecters are just stupid.
Another voice of reason has alighted our forums!
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Final Fantasy charecters and disney do not work. Disney Charecters are just stupid.
Well if so, why was Kingdom Hearts such a big success? It does work, its just that it wouldnt be something ALL Final Fantasy fans would go for.
And like, did you actually expect to be playing a Final Fantasy? Take it as its own game.
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Final Fantasy charecters and disney do not work. Disney Charecters are just stupid.
... Yeah, your an idiot.
Anyway, thanks for the spoilers, Silvercry. Now I don't have to worry about beating Riku's story.
Anyway, whats the offical release date for this game? I've seen so many different dates, I don't know whats offical anymore.
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Anyway, whats the offical release date for this game? I've seen so many different dates, I don't know whats offical anymore.
As far as I know, its sometime mid-march i think for America, cant tell you about Europe and Australia though, I can imagine it wouldnt be too long after march.
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Wikipedia spoiled KH II for me, revealing who's DiZ, the origins of Roxas and Namine, etc, etc...
Can't say I'm totally annoyed... I knew the ending for most RPG's I've played...
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Wikipedia spoiled KH II for me, revealing who's DiZ, the origins of Roxas and Namine, etc, etc...
Too bad. Ive never gone to Wikipedia when it comes to games. I almost clicked the link to the KH2 bit though. I had to try and resist. :)
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For cheating, I used a GBA Gameshark. The codes are at gameshark.com. I used max hp, all cards, max cp, max strength, lvl 99. Takes care of everything. And I know what you mean! Until I applied the max strength code, I was STILL struggling with the game! God...fricken...gah!!!
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And Silver...I'm not quite sure what it is you're wanting to confirm...Riku goes through all the Disney worlds, fighting the boss of each one the same way Sora did, although Maleficent is more interesting to him than Sora. But yeah, there is no story about each world, he's just going through each to try to get control over the darkness, and eventually learn to not simply embrace it, but use it to guide him instead of letting it use him.
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As far as KH2 release, sometime in March...*shrug*...I want EGM. What an awesome magazine.
And yeah, if it hadn't been for the addition of the Disney characters, Kingdom Hearts wouldn't have been NEARLY as awesome. Then again I grew up with all the Disney classics fricken memorized.
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The only time I ever went on Wikipedia for a game was after I beat Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2. I wanted to see if there was anything about Revan that I missed in KOTR2.
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Honestly, I've never been able to stomach the concept of Kingdom Hearts. Call me jaded, but I honestly don't think that most of the new Disney stuff is fit to interact with Final Fantasy. Putting Sephiroth, a mass-murdering badass who almost destroys the world and kills everyone on it so he can be reborn as a crazy god who'd then go out and pull the same crap on every civilized planet he can find, in the same game as Donald, Goofy, Mickey and Minnie just never sat well with me. Not only that, they felt the need to compound the atrocity by introducing every cheap character they've created and/or stolen in the past five years. There hasn't been a good Disney movie since The Lion King, and including Hercules and Tarzan is outright copyright infringement, in my mind; both characters were around long before Walt Disney even knew what pencil and paper were. Maybe if they'd kept it with the more serious Disney characters and stuck to the Heartless storyline instead of having it diverge all over the place, I would have found it more palatable.
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Hadriel, did you actually play it...? Because thats what most people I know thought about the game before they actually did play it.
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Maybe if they'd kept it with the more serious Disney characters and stuck to the Heartless storyline instead of having it diverge all over the place, I would have found it more palatable.
..That, and 60% shorter. Excuse me, I don't want a 10 hours game, Hadriel. >_>
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And yeah, if it hadn't been for the addition of the Disney characters, Kingdom Hearts wouldn't have been NEARLY as awesome. Then again I grew up with all the Disney classics fricken memorized.
Thats exactly the reason why Kingdom Hearts was DIVERSE. It wasnt a Final Fantasy (if it was I probably wouldnt have played it) and it wasnt a Disney Game. It was both, which made it great.
Putting Sephiroth, a mass-murdering badass who almost destroys the world and kills everyone on it so he can be reborn as a crazy god who'd then go out and pull the same crap on every civilized planet he can find, in the same game as Donald, Goofy, Mickey and Minnie just never sat well with me.
Thats is why it makes it interesting. Because of these two sets of characters how they can merge into one game.
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Hadriel, did you actually play it...? Because thats what most people I know thought about the game before they actually did play it.
The same thing I would've asked. Hadriel, you should play it before bashing it anymore.
Besides, Sephiroth sucks, for one thing, and for another he's merely an optional hard-ass boss in a colliseum.
Hercules and Tarzan are the only two Disney movies after Lion King...all the others are before that.
And the focus of the story IS the Heartless, and Sora, Riku and Kari's relationship and friendship up and downs, their discovery of darkness and light, and all that.
And Maleficent has gotta be the greatest Disney villain ever. Followed by Hades. Cuz James Woods is totally awesome.
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Hadriel, did you actually play it...? Because thats what most people I know thought about the game before they actually did play it.
The same thing I would've asked. Hadriel, you should play it before bashing it anymore.
Besides, Sephiroth sucks, for one thing, and for another he's merely an optional hard-ass boss in a colliseum.
Hercules and Tarzan are the only two Disney movies after Lion King...all the others are before that.
And the focus of the story IS the Heartless, and Sora, Riku and Kari's relationship and friendship up and downs, their discovery of darkness and light, and all that.
And Maleficent has gotta be the greatest Disney villain ever. Followed by Hades. Cuz James Woods is totally awesome.
Honestly, I haven't played it. From everything I've heard on OCR and other gaming sites, the controls and interface are horrible and the storyline is contrived, something about Princesses of Heart and beating up some goo creatures that look like they were sculpted into spider-sicles out of the Black Virus from the X-Files.
As for Hercules and Tarzan being the only two Disney movies after The Lion King, I screwed up; I was thinking of Kingdom Hearts II, where Mulan and a couple of others make an appearance. But my main contention is still that they weren't originally from Disney, so they shouldn't have been in it. Maleficent I'll agree with you on; Sleeping Beauty kicked ass, and transforming into a dragon was awesome. Who else can do that? (OK, probably plenty of people by now, but who'd done it in cinema before her?) I also think it's one of the only few times the word "hell" has been used in a Disney piece, along with Gargoyles' David Xanatos and A Night on Bald Mountain. Jeez louise, that thing gave me nightmares for a week when I saw it. Of course, I was like three at the time, but still, Satan isn't exactly a guy you'd want to run into in a back alley. Or even a front alley. Or just in general. That's probably the most terrifying incarnation of the devil that's ever been created; Diablo's got nothing on Fantasia.
I'm tempted to pick up KHII because of the Tron world (Bruce Boxleitner = hell yeah) and OMFG, VIVI!!1111 And I love David Boreanaz, and...how the hell did they get all these big names, anyway?
But then I'd have to play through the first KH and Chain of Memories to figure out what the hell's actually going on. But the game strikes me as exceedingly kiddish. Actually, I'm probably going to end up playing it at some point anyway, if only so I can get blitzed with it. I've got malt whiskey, Cheetos, and Newgrounds. But you know what would make me abandon all doubt and devour the entire series instantaneously?
A Gargoyles world.
That would rule so hard. I want to kick the shit out of Steel Clan robots at the top of the Empire State Building, and have Goliath throw SUVs at all the sorry bastards who are stupid enough to stand in my way. I want to commandeer the laser turrets in Macbeth's castle and shoot some fools down, and cast all kinds of whacked-out spells with Puck. Damn, that would rule.
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Honestly, I haven't played it. From everything I've heard on OCR and other gaming sites, the controls and interface are horrible and the storyline is contrived, something about Princesses of Heart and beating up some goo creatures that look like they were sculpted into spider-sicles out of the Black Virus from the X-Files.
Well...uhm...I completely disagree with all those opinions. I'm so addicted to Kingdom Hearts, and a HUGE part of that is simply how fun it is to play. Beating the shit outta things has never been so much fun. The controls are NOT horrible, they're wonderful! The interface isn't bad at all...not being able to go in the menu during battle does suck, yes, but otherwise the interface is great! Though being able to open treasure chests should've been easier...it's still not bad at all.
And the storyline is very dark, actually, and not shallow at all. It's complex in it's simplicity. It's very creative. I love it, mostly cuz of the characters. They're just great.
As for Hercules and Tarzan being the only two Disney movies after The Lion King, I screwed up; I was thinking of Kingdom Hearts II, where Mulan and a couple of others make an appearance. But my main contention is still that they weren't originally from Disney, so they shouldn't have been in it. Maleficent I'll agree with you on; Sleeping Beauty kicked ass, and transforming into a dragon was awesome. Who else can do that? (OK, probably plenty of people by now, but who'd done it in cinema before her?) I also think it's one of the only few times the word "hell" has been used in a Disney piece, along with Gargoyles' David Xanatos and A Night on Bald Mountain. Jeez louise, that thing gave me nightmares for a week when I saw it. Of course, I was like three at the time, but still, Satan isn't exactly a guy you'd want to run into in a back alley. Or even a front alley. Or just in general. That's probably the most terrifying incarnation of the devil that's ever been created; Diablo's got nothing on Fantasia.
Mulan and Pirates is it, I think. Yup. But if you think about it, almost every single Disney movie until Lion King wasn't original, it was based on some tale, myth, or old story or something like that. It's recently that they've been most original and creative.
Oh, btw, the "Night on Bald Mountain" devil is in KH1. Just thought you'd wanna know that.
I'm tempted to pick up KHII because of the Tron world (Bruce Boxleitner = hell yeah) and OMFG, VIVI!!1111 And I love David Boreanaz, and...how the hell did they get all these big names, anyway?
I'm excited about Tron, too.
But then I'd have to play through the first KH and Chain of Memories to figure out what the hell's actually going on. But the game strikes me as exceedingly kiddish. Actually, I'm probably going to end up playing it at some point anyway, if only so I can get blitzed with it. I've got malt whiskey, Cheetos, and Newgrounds. But you know what would make me abandon all doubt and devour the entire series instantaneously?
KH you will enjoy, especially if you love Zelda. I can...pretty much guaruntee it. CoM...that's a toughy. No one will blame you if you cheat. And if you DO cheat...the shitty gameplay elements go by decently quick, and you get to absord that surprisingly large amount of story the game has to offer.
A Gargoyles world.
That would rule so hard. I want to kick the shit out of Steel Clan robots at the top of the Empire State Building, and have Goliath throw SUVs at all the sorry bastards who are stupid enough to stand in my way. I want to commandeer the laser turrets in Macbeth's castle and shoot some fools down, and cast all kinds of whacked-out spells with Puck. Damn, that would rule.
Agreed.
Know what'd be funny? Flightplan and Sister Act worlds. Hey, they're Touchstone, too!
But Corpse Bride, man, that'd be awesome. It's a hard achievement to outrank Nightmare Before Christmas, and Corpse Bride did it with GUSTO!
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I'd heard that the Night on Bald Mountain sequence was in KH. That's the kind of badguy that you don't fuck around with; you go straight to DEFCON 1, call in wings of bombers, and pound it with nukes and MOABs until the entire mountain is a pile of radioactive ash the size of my shoe. Unfortunately, they didn't see it fit to include advanced or even present-day technology in the game, so I'm guessing that's not an option.
As for CoM, the only game I've ever outright cheated on was F-Zero GX. Try the first mission in Story Mode on Very Hard. You need Jedi Master reflexes to get that right. As it stands, I have Jedi apprentice reflexes.
But now that I think about it, even the most deadly serious games have some lighthearted elements in them. Chrono is hella serious, and it features an anthropomorphic frog. FFVII had the cross-dressing sequence; I saved a game right there just so I could play through it as many times as I wanted. The funny thing is, I could imagine a more philosophical KH-style game with another beloved cast of characters, say for example the various heroes of Nintendo, plus the Looney Tunes. Maybe it's just because I like Bugs Bunny more, but he'd probably assume the role of an NPC, because from a "real" perspective, Bugs is literally a god; he's completely unkillable, and is only ever defeated for the sake of comedy. The one thing I'd put in the game, due to the nature of Looney Tunes (aside from an overly pretentious storyline based in philosophy so heavy the Governator couldn't lift it) would be a menu-driven physics engine which actually allows you to alter the in-game laws of physics for a brief period of time in the same way that the cartoon characters do it, similar to noclip functions in FPS games except with far greater utility. I can only guess at who the superbosses would be, though; that'd have to depend on the other half of the cast.
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In terms of gameplay and inferface, I don't think Kingdom Hearts is bad that way. You lock onto a target automatically, and you attack with the attack command. Although I admit, movement was a tad awkard at first, but its nothing near as bad as it was in FF10, and you get used to it fast. The only problem inferace wise is the camera, and thats hardly a problem that only KH has to deal with, as its common.
And the story for me at least, picks up in the latter half of the game. To tell you the truth, when I first started playing KH, I got to Atlantica, and got to where you fought Ursala. I basically dropped the game for a few months, not wanting to continue (aladins world killed my enthusaism). Later on, I picked it back up, and soon got back into the game, and beat it. I really liked the second half of the game.
As for "kiddy", most of that ends with the source material, or a few dumb jokes here and there, but (like you said) most games/animes have things like that, even the more serious ones.
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The only problem inferace wise is the camera, and thats hardly a problem that only KH has to deal with, as its common.
Luckily they fixed that in KH2.
and beating up some goo creatures that look like they were sculpted into spider-sicles out of the Black Virus from the X-Files.
They only goo creatures I remember heaving to beat up was those random things on Ansem's Random Ship thing at the end of the game. Which I personally wasnt expecting, that bit is completely un-disney in every single way, the random creatures, that face thing at the front of the ship, it was all unexpected. But it was good fun, because you weren't stuck fighting Ansem the entire time. You could just kinda hide out and fight things on the ship.
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In terms of gameplay and inferface, I don't think Kingdom Hearts is bad that way. You lock onto a target automatically, and you attack with the attack command. Although I admit, movement was a tad awkard at first, but its nothing near as bad as it was in FF10, and you get used to it fast. The only problem inferace wise is the camera, and thats hardly a problem that only KH has to deal with, as its common.
I will admit that yea, the camera can be stupid sometimes, and the locking can be frustrating...that's why I go in the options menu and take all the auto stuff off, do everything manually. THEN it's easily playable. It's like turning 'Hold' on for Zelda 64's target system. And not having the camera move by itself is nice.
And the story for me at least, picks up in the latter half of the game. To tell you the truth, when I first started playing KH, I got to Atlantica, and got to where you fought Ursala. I basically dropped the game for a few months, not wanting to continue (aladins world killed my enthusaism). Later on, I picked it back up, and soon got back into the game, and beat it. I really liked the second half of the game.
I agree, I hated Aladdin's world. Still do. And I hated Atlantica, but I LOVED fighting Ursula (when she was huge). Man that was fun.
As for "kiddy", most of that ends with the source material, or a few dumb jokes here and there, but (like you said) most games/animes have things like that, even the more serious ones.
That's what I love about Kingdom Hearts. It reminds me of all that kinda stuff. Totally dark and serious at times, and totally light-hearted and calm at others. It's a great balance.
As for the goo creatures, I think he's talking about the Shadow heartless. Those guys are awesome! They remind me of the little black demon things from Terry Brooks' Word and Void series. They're fun to kill!
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As for the goo creatures, I think he's talking about the Shadow heartless. Those guys are awesome! They remind me of the little black demon things from Terry Brooks' Word and Void series. They're fun to kill!
Ah yes, but they aren't really made of goo. There made out of darkness.
Of course they're fun to kill, especially when you can nail a bunch of them with Thundaga and munny goes everywhere!!