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Time, Space, and Dimensions / discuss? help?

« on: March 19, 2006, 06:29:02 am »

well, the part about the rhetoric usually applies to most theoretical findings which we are quick to call "science".  things are "theories" for a reason-- they are usually unprovable abstract thoughts... and even IF tested, they are only proving themselves true within the realm of which man has created... i mean, not knocking 'us', but it is pretty naive to assume that our primitive phonotetic alphabet and sharp tongues can explain the majority of anamolies.  sort of like the frank herbert quote...
"Deep in the human unconscious is a pervasive need for a logical universe that makes sense. But the real universe is always one step beyond logic."

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / discuss? help?

« on: March 18, 2006, 11:27:19 pm »

great posts....but... i just find it slightly unnerving when i read "scientific fact"-- ...how can one define AND slate a topic based on half-assed linguistics given by a self-proclaimed scientist?  accepting a "famous" scientist's  "theory" is what i would call "taking the easy way out"-- attempting to disprove an otherwise liberal//radical idea via anything defined by the law of man... sucks.  if hawking can come to the conclusion, which he did last year, that his black hole time travel theory doesn't actually "work"... i'm pretty sure most theoretical rhetoric spouted can't be determined to be 100% true.... i mean, what do we know?  we govern our lives by the laws and rules that "we" ourselves created.  

"FATE" personifying itself as an entity isn't true, but it is a safe assumption that forces operating outside of our own comprehension alter our lives on the daily...if you think that "complete" free will exists, i would urge you to play ouija and/or leave your house more.  

individual abstract thought > accepted scientific "fact"

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / discuss? help?

« on: March 17, 2006, 02:42:58 pm »

thanks everyone for posting!
do you see the contradictory nature of this though--- how can we say that "fate" exists and "free will" do in the same breath?  how can something dictate where its power stops and starts if it is suppossed to be universal in the first place?  i mean, i know that is just me SAYING it SHOULD be universal, but it only makes sense to be universal....
but yea, sorry to skew--

how can we say that fate exists with EVERY second of our life changing our own/someone else's and then say that we have free will?  i mean, i know this is a total mindf**k with no answer, but how do we know that our "free will" wasn't actually a choice we were going to make.  do we ever have free will?

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Time, Space, and Dimensions / discuss? help?

« on: March 15, 2006, 05:45:01 am »

is it okay to assume that, in both real-life and chrono worlds, that every action, good or bad, is the positive or negative result of another's action? do things happen for a "reason"... i mean, i'm sort of unsure on how to elaborate, or explain, but... i guess... had a boy not gotten into an automobile accident that left him legless, would he and his disgruntled, "i'm-never-there-for-you" mother have made ends meet...? if this is the case and was "SUPPOSSED" to happen, how is time is so elastic and non-concrete with "free will" as the vehicle in real-world and chrono-based scenarios?  i mean, i KNOW that there are deviations from normality as seen by CT, but can one argue that those were predetermined too? does predetermination have to be governed by some "supreme being"? if life is subjective and time and events are elastic, will we always arrive at an original "ending point" of one set of events despite deviating at some earlier point?  it just seems like every event in time is connected in some way--every choice and thought, but are these "our" thoughts, or thoughts from another "us" in a different "world", metaphysical or dimensional, coexisting with our own?

i'm hoping for both real-life answers + CT-engine explained ones.  mostly RL ones though i'd prefer to NOT have a linguist//semantics war i'm just looking for insight.  great articles and posts by all, sorry if this has been brought up-- and i'm sure it has...