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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Record of fate
« on: May 16, 2006, 10:55:24 pm »yes...that^ would explain this little detail,
"the best FATE could do was cross dimensions and RECIEVE DATA through the Records of Fate"
but not my initial question,
how can FATE from another world still use the records of fate in home world?
this is turning into a fallacy -___-
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: Record of fate
« on: May 15, 2006, 09:52:50 pm »
Not really answering my quesiton you know -___-
well anyway
I always thought the Records of Fate in Home World were merely a remnant of FATE's influence through the dimension of his downfall. Another World's FATE, as stated in the game, CAN use the Records of Fate of both worlds to keep an eye on the progression of events, but its influence on Home World is marginal — at best, it can only issue advice and hope the natives obey, while in Another World its power of persuasion is absolute. This would explain why the Home World people's lives are still relatively influenced by the Record of Fate, but can nevertheless live of their own free will — it's like both peoples think of the Records as gods of sorts, as seers into the future, but Another contains FATE's actual existence, while Home's FATE is pretty much dead in the water, only able to alter the Dead Sea and nothing else outside its boundaries.[/quote]
Wouldn't that completely contridict my qoute from the game and didn't you sort of contridict your self as well ?
It says that FATE was unable to intervene directly with home world that the best FATE could do was cross dimensions and receive data through the Records of Fate, they never said that remnants of FATE still linger in home worlds record of fate. Also if FATE was having difficulties just trying to bind Miguel to the Dead Sea as its guardian how do you except it to to offer any sort of advice and hope people follow it?
well anyway
I always thought the Records of Fate in Home World were merely a remnant of FATE's influence through the dimension of his downfall. Another World's FATE, as stated in the game, CAN use the Records of Fate of both worlds to keep an eye on the progression of events, but its influence on Home World is marginal — at best, it can only issue advice and hope the natives obey, while in Another World its power of persuasion is absolute. This would explain why the Home World people's lives are still relatively influenced by the Record of Fate, but can nevertheless live of their own free will — it's like both peoples think of the Records as gods of sorts, as seers into the future, but Another contains FATE's actual existence, while Home's FATE is pretty much dead in the water, only able to alter the Dead Sea and nothing else outside its boundaries.[/quote]
Wouldn't that completely contridict my qoute from the game and didn't you sort of contridict your self as well
?It says that FATE was unable to intervene directly with home world that the best FATE could do was cross dimensions and receive data through the Records of Fate, they never said that remnants of FATE still linger in home worlds record of fate. Also if FATE was having difficulties just trying to bind Miguel to the Dead Sea as its guardian how do you except it to to offer any sort of advice and hope people follow it?
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Record of fate
« on: May 12, 2006, 01:03:10 pm »
I played and finished this game 5 years ago and it just hit me...how is it that FATE is still influencing people in home world through the records of fate if FATE was unable to intervene with home world?
However...
Ever since the formation of
the Dead Sea 10 years ago...
FATE has been unable to intervene
directly with World 01(home world).
The best FATE could do was cross
the dimension and receive data
through the Records of Fate.
And with much difficulty, FATE
succeeded in binding Miguel
to the Dead Sea as a watchman...
A fisher man in home world says that the record of fate told him not to go fishing today so this shows that fate is still influencing people in home world and to my assumption is still trying to keep people away from the main continent one way or another and if thats the cause why would FATE let Fargo become a pirate in another world? He could easily access the main continent in his ship and he could just as easily cause a major change in the history that fate knows.
I was always under the impression(despite the obvious) that home world, despite being the false reality, was the "true" reality since the people of home world were not bond by FATE's predetermined history(ironic for people who blieve in fate) they were free to make their own decisions like the girl in arni who decided to become a traveling poet but in another world was told to give up that dream due to FATEs intervention(samething with the guy who took up fishing instead of worshipping a straw doll...). Thats just my view anyway, so if anyone can interject and help clear this up
However...
Ever since the formation of
the Dead Sea 10 years ago...
FATE has been unable to intervene
directly with World 01(home world).
The best FATE could do was cross
the dimension and receive data
through the Records of Fate.
And with much difficulty, FATE
succeeded in binding Miguel
to the Dead Sea as a watchman...
A fisher man in home world says that the record of fate told him not to go fishing today so this shows that fate is still influencing people in home world and to my assumption is still trying to keep people away from the main continent one way or another and if thats the cause why would FATE let Fargo become a pirate in another world? He could easily access the main continent in his ship and he could just as easily cause a major change in the history that fate knows.
I was always under the impression(despite the obvious) that home world, despite being the false reality, was the "true" reality since the people of home world were not bond by FATE's predetermined history(ironic for people who blieve in fate) they were free to make their own decisions like the girl in arni who decided to become a traveling poet but in another world was told to give up that dream due to FATEs intervention(samething with the guy who took up fishing instead of worshipping a straw doll...). Thats just my view anyway, so if anyone can interject and help clear this up
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Lucca and the Gurus
« on: April 14, 2006, 08:52:31 pm »
Red time gate...ONLY thing that bothers me the most, even more then Lucca being able to construct a key that can harness the power of the time gates and less then Marles breasts growing in size...what was i talking about again oh ya it still bothers me how the red time gate was there especially for Lucca and that it opened at the exact moment of her mothers accident and the fact that she KNEW it would transport her at that exact moment just makes me believe theirs more to her then her ego...or i could just be giving Squaresoft to much credit and they didn't even know what they were doing when they added this maybe I'm looking to much into this...
and thanks Zeppelin!
oh ya it still bothers me how the red time gate was there especially for Lucca and that it opened at the exact moment of her mothers accident and the fact that she KNEW it would transport her at that exact moment just makes me believe theirs more to her then her ego...or i could just be giving Squaresoft to much credit and they didn't even know what they were doing when they added this maybe I'm looking to much into this...and thanks Zeppelin!
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Lucca and the Gurus
« on: April 12, 2006, 10:38:57 pm »
You should have also included how Lucca some how KNEW the red time gate would lead her to the exact moment of her mothers accident "Did I make it back...to that moment?"
i find it odd that chronocompendium hasn't come up with a theory to explain this because for some reason, I'm just not buying the whole "entity over hearing the conversation" bit, their has to be something else at work here...
i find it odd that chronocompendium hasn't come up with a theory to explain this because for some reason, I'm just not buying the whole "entity over hearing the conversation" bit, their has to be something else at work here...
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