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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: I'm curious...
« on: March 01, 2008, 12:17:30 am »
Wow, what is wrong with you people? Who the hell watches Star Trek? Nerds thats who.
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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: I'm curious...
« on: February 29, 2008, 10:53:54 pm »It's trendy to hate the Compendium for Chrono Trigger fanboys at GameFAQs.
I ain't trendy. It's the right thing to do.
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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: I'm curious...
« on: February 29, 2008, 12:29:03 pm »It is implied that Doreen is also Melchior's dream, as Masa and Mune call her their sister. Additionally, I think Melchior was the one identified with creating both the Mammon Machine and the Pendant. We might then see the Mammon as being "evil" as it would be the only one of Melchior's 3 creations to not have a "soul." It is apart from the theme of dreams.
Just because Doreen is referred to as Sister by Masa and Mune does not imply that she is also a dream of Melchior. They are probably saying it because she is another dream-being like them and therefore their sister in that sense.
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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: I'm curious...
« on: February 29, 2008, 11:39:55 am »yeah, i agree. we don't know WHAT object doreen is an avatar for...
i'm actually REALLY starting to buy this theory.
Well has the game ever said who made Schala's pendant? I think it just says that the pendant is made out of "the same red rock as the mammon machine." The only reason why I ask is because Masa and Mune are suppose to embody Melchiors dreams in the Masamune. So who's dreams would Doreen be embedding into the pendant? Perhaps Schala made the pendant and Doreen embodies her dreams.
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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: I'm curious...
« on: February 29, 2008, 12:23:57 am »
Aw come on. Had Zeality typed that joke and put down his little Star Trek picture you all would have laughed. Stop being hypocrites.
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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: I'm curious...
« on: February 28, 2008, 07:29:53 pm »Trixter, I think you had better stop insulting members, lest you want to receive a blow from the ban hammer. (Obviously, I don't hold that power, but it's pretty obvious where this situation is headed.) Any third party can obviously see that *you* are the one being zealous and aggressive. Argue, maybe. But, when you start to personally insult/attack other members, otherwise known as flaming, *that's* crossing the line between friendly argument and petty personal attacks. So I'd settle down if I were you and return to a friendly tone.
Obvious Examples:[/quote]
"If banning is to be done, let it be done! If the compendium is to be destroyed, so be it! If it is my fate to be banned, I must simply laugh!"
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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: I'm curious...
« on: February 27, 2008, 01:28:44 am »He must be a masochist or something, he keeps coming back for our insults.
And yeah, don't show up just after you have played the game the first time and expect yourself to be automatically right. We have been researching this shit for years.
You are an idiot. I bought Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross game the years they came out, and I've played them each countless times. Just because my opinion doesn't match yours make me wrong? If anything it makes you wrong because last time I checked I'm more important than you.
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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: I'm curious...
« on: February 25, 2008, 09:40:07 pm »
Don't worry about it, he was obviously trying to pick a fight (especially with Zeality; a senior member, mind you.); one he couldn't win, so he threw a fit and left...
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Just because Zeality runs this site, that doesn't mean he knows any more about the Chrono series than anyone else.
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: About the Masamune.
« on: February 19, 2008, 01:59:27 am »
Thundercats sucked. What a 3rd rate cartoon...
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: About the Masamune.
« on: February 16, 2008, 10:49:19 am »
Melchoir having time to finish the Masamune in the Lavos timeline DOES NOT make sense as you say. When someone makes a sword they don't start off by making a knife. A blacksmith never turns a knife into a sword.
And why would Ozzie be talking about some generic sword. It's pretty obvious that he's talking about the Masamune. For one thing the Masamune was said to be needed to fight Magus so why would Cyrus be fighting him without the Masamune. And Masa & Mune clearly state, "Only Cyrus made it this far" indicating that he in fact got his hands on the Masamune. And furthermore its implied that the Masamune broke during that battle between Cyrus and Magus.
And what I was saying about the Retranslation is this. Who is to say that the people that retranlated it didn't also make mistakes. Why all of a sudden are they superior to Woosley. Even if Woosley admitted some mistakes that doesn't change the fact that there could be mistakes in the retranslation too.
Also I think its a good point to mention that even though it appears that the Cryus/Magus battle happens outside of the Masa&Mune cave we cannot say for sure that that's where it was. In Chrono Cross when Radius and Garai find the Masamune it sure as heck looks like they found it at Divine Dragon Falls. But it's stated elsewhere that they found it on the mainland. So just because the topical graphics are the same doesn't necessarily mean anything. The background could have just been reused to save time.
And why would Ozzie be talking about some generic sword. It's pretty obvious that he's talking about the Masamune. For one thing the Masamune was said to be needed to fight Magus so why would Cyrus be fighting him without the Masamune. And Masa & Mune clearly state, "Only Cyrus made it this far" indicating that he in fact got his hands on the Masamune. And furthermore its implied that the Masamune broke during that battle between Cyrus and Magus.
And what I was saying about the Retranslation is this. Who is to say that the people that retranlated it didn't also make mistakes. Why all of a sudden are they superior to Woosley. Even if Woosley admitted some mistakes that doesn't change the fact that there could be mistakes in the retranslation too.
Also I think its a good point to mention that even though it appears that the Cryus/Magus battle happens outside of the Masa&Mune cave we cannot say for sure that that's where it was. In Chrono Cross when Radius and Garai find the Masamune it sure as heck looks like they found it at Divine Dragon Falls. But it's stated elsewhere that they found it on the mainland. So just because the topical graphics are the same doesn't necessarily mean anything. The background could have just been reused to save time.
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: So where are the Gurus at...?
« on: February 16, 2008, 02:37:42 am »
I guess no ones willing to take a shot at answering this?
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: About the Masamune.
« on: February 16, 2008, 02:35:36 am »
No I didn't originally say that, someone else in the thread did. I just extrapolated on it if he really did. And no one has proved one way or the other if Cyrus went straight from fighting Masa & Mune to fighting Ozzie and Magus or if there was a time period in between. I'd personally say that there'd have to be a time period between. Otherwise how would all these stories of a Hero weilding the Masamune be in affect.
And like I said, even if Cyrus didn't have the Ruby Knife the question still stands. What powered up the Ruby Knife in the Lavos timeline? It was clearly the Masamune, not the Ruby Knife, while in its broken form. So that means that Cyrus was weilding the Masamune, not the Knife, when it was broken. But in order for it to be the Masamune Crono would have had to go back in time and stab the Mammon Machine. So you end up with this perpetual never ending loop.
And like I said, even if Cyrus didn't have the Ruby Knife the question still stands. What powered up the Ruby Knife in the Lavos timeline? It was clearly the Masamune, not the Ruby Knife, while in its broken form. So that means that Cyrus was weilding the Masamune, not the Knife, when it was broken. But in order for it to be the Masamune Crono would have had to go back in time and stab the Mammon Machine. So you end up with this perpetual never ending loop.
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: About the Masamune.
« on: February 16, 2008, 02:19:03 am »
WHATEVER! Who the hell cares about Cyrus anyways? That wasn't even the intial question. The question is how did the Ruby Knife power up into in the Masamune in the Lavos Timeline! Melchoir clearly did not use the knife himself on the Mammon Machine.
And just as a side note, I find it sickening that people here always point to the Retranslation. Who's to say one translation is any better than another. Some words an phrases aren't so easy to convert between languages. The retranslation doesn't have any more bearing than the original translations. Give Woosley a little credit ya?
And just as a side note, I find it sickening that people here always point to the Retranslation. Who's to say one translation is any better than another. Some words an phrases aren't so easy to convert between languages. The retranslation doesn't have any more bearing than the original translations. Give Woosley a little credit ya?
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / So where are the Gurus at...?
« on: February 15, 2008, 11:22:58 pm »
I understand that Melchoir is trapped on Mt. Woe, but what about the other 2 Gurus? Where are they at when Crono arrives in Zeal? One lady in Zeal says, "They say that Gaspar, the guru of time, continues his work on some deserted island." So I guess that accounts for Gaspar...kind of. But when I think of the original timeline I remember seeing Gaspar getting thrown into a gate to the End of Time. So I suppose he came back from his deserted island to the Ocean Palace?
And what about Belthasar? A guy in Zeal says, "Even Belthasar is gone, ... How strange that the three Gurus who guide Zeal have all disappeared."
I don't think that Magus' intereaction as a Prophet answers this question because the lady who talks about Gaspar also says this. "He's [Gaspar] making a Time Egg or something. But no ones seen him for ages." So that means that Gaspar was missing even before Magus came to Zeal.
And what about Belthasar? A guy in Zeal says, "Even Belthasar is gone, ... How strange that the three Gurus who guide Zeal have all disappeared."
I don't think that Magus' intereaction as a Prophet answers this question because the lady who talks about Gaspar also says this. "He's [Gaspar] making a Time Egg or something. But no ones seen him for ages." So that means that Gaspar was missing even before Magus came to Zeal.
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: About the Masamune.
« on: February 15, 2008, 10:47:49 pm »He was killed presumably while trying to get the Masamune on that mission to also get the Hero Medal back from the Frog King, since the battle takes place right outside the Masamune's cave.
Umm your point??? Just because the battle took place there doesn't mean that Cyrus didn't already have possesion of the Masamune.