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Chrono Trigger Modification / Re: Starting to make a hard type for Chrono Trigger...
« on: September 06, 2008, 01:19:47 am »
Eh, been a while since I last worked on this, but currently I'm up to working on the Tyrano Lair... Not that much progress, but it's getting done. Really only working on it on occasion. Anyways, the only problem that has come up is that sometimes when you level up, the text glitches pretty weird then fixes it self after you get through it, but other than that it works pretty fine.
Well, I was just wondering if you guys would want me to post some sort of demo of it so far, or would you rather wait until the finished project? Not really sure if I am making it difficult enough/too difficult is why I'm asking. I've been fighting pretty much every fight once as I am going through it and fighting the bosses like that with each party set up possible at that point, upgrading to the best equipment as much as I can. I haven't forced myself into grinding, but I wouldn't say I'm going through it low level either...
Well, I was just wondering if you guys would want me to post some sort of demo of it so far, or would you rather wait until the finished project? Not really sure if I am making it difficult enough/too difficult is why I'm asking. I've been fighting pretty much every fight once as I am going through it and fighting the bosses like that with each party set up possible at that point, upgrading to the best equipment as much as I can. I haven't forced myself into grinding, but I wouldn't say I'm going through it low level either...
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Chrono Trigger Modification / Re: Starting to make a hard type for Chrono Trigger...
« on: July 11, 2008, 01:37:29 am »
Only past the first visit of the prehistoric era... Ayla's place or w/e. Really haven't been able to update >.>... So many games have been coming out, that take some priority in getting finished over this : /. Like I said before though, I do not plan on giving this up.
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Chrono Trigger Modification / Re: Playable character mod: Schala
« on: June 07, 2008, 12:36:14 pm »
Is it me, or does the skirt make her look younger...?
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Chrono Trigger Modification / Re: Starting to make a hard type for Chrono Trigger...
« on: June 06, 2008, 08:35:04 pm »
Eh, haven't done much for some time >.>... Since my last update, I only just finished the Masamune area, and have not tested my changes in the prehistoric area yet. I do plan on finishing though, just have had some unexpected things to deal with this week. Sorry bout that.
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Chrono Trigger Modification / Re: Starting to make a hard type for Chrono Trigger...
« on: May 29, 2008, 09:05:34 pm »
Eh, it is youtubes doing. Going through site maintenance... When it finishes, you should be able to post a comment again >.>...
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Chrono Trigger Modification / Re: Starting to make a hard type for Chrono Trigger...
« on: May 29, 2008, 06:08:11 pm »
Currently, I am working on the Masamune area... Not really sure how long this will take me overall, since I am trying for the most part to check each parties usefulness for each boss. Trying to make sure that no boss favors one party over another too much, although they still have their own strategy, seeing how different party means access to different skills.
Just curious, how would you guys prefer me to keep you updated on this projects progress so far? Once every few days I guess?
Anyways, here is a video of Dragon Tank I made yesterday/two days ago with his boosts, if you have not already seen it... In my videos, is also a video of those same characters fighting an unmodified dragon tank. I think he came out ok compared to the original, although you need a good stock of tonics at that level to take him on. Least there are enemies in there that provide some for you if needed.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=obESVO1KMIc
Going back to work now.
Just curious, how would you guys prefer me to keep you updated on this projects progress so far? Once every few days I guess?
Anyways, here is a video of Dragon Tank I made yesterday/two days ago with his boosts, if you have not already seen it... In my videos, is also a video of those same characters fighting an unmodified dragon tank. I think he came out ok compared to the original, although you need a good stock of tonics at that level to take him on. Least there are enemies in there that provide some for you if needed.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=obESVO1KMIc
Going back to work now.
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Chrono Trigger Modification / Re: Starting to make a hard type for Chrono Trigger...
« on: May 26, 2008, 12:19:51 am »
Hopefully am done with the chrono trigger editor for a bit, or at least going to not let it distract me so I can work on this XD. I also really need someones opinions on what to do with experience/tech points/money... Should I leave them the same, decrease/increase any of them, etc. Item drops, I may alter a bit, not that sure about that yet either.
One other thought I have, using Jsondag2's tech editor, I may increase mp cost of techs a bit. Probably not going to change any techs other than that really... To do this though, I will have to convert my rom to an unheadered one so I can change the techs, then add a header so I can continue with editing enemies... Will make a backup, just incase something happens though.
One other thought I have, using Jsondag2's tech editor, I may increase mp cost of techs a bit. Probably not going to change any techs other than that really... To do this though, I will have to convert my rom to an unheadered one so I can change the techs, then add a header so I can continue with editing enemies... Will make a backup, just incase something happens though.
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Chrono Trigger Modification / Re: Tech Editor - Period
« on: May 25, 2008, 10:15:12 pm »
Eh, I know I said I wouldn't upload a video for some time, but that post made me feel like going through with it >.>...
Anyways, here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HmNuMpZ27I
I will also write the exact things I had that gave this outcome. It still needs to be tweaked in my opinion. If you can't tell, I made it aim for all enemies, seeing how that big area around enemy option did not work.
-[E0917][E094A][52]NewObject
Set SpeedLevel(0C)
Set FacingNode(0D)
Load Animation06(1D)
Pause(05)
LoadAnimation06(26)
SuperCommand(1D)
Unknown27()
LoadByte2Graphics(30)
Move to Target(02,03)
Hide Shadow
Section++
Supercommand(1F)
Displace00(00)
CallSound(FF)
Section++
SuperCommand(1E)
LoadStaticAnimation(0E,02)
Set Speed Level(0C)
Move To Target(02,19)
Hide Shadow
Unknown28()
UnknownDA(1B)
Teleport(03, 33)
LoadAnimation06(03)
Wait for Section 03
Pause(14)
UnknownA0()
Unknown01()
Return
-[E094B][EO95D][19] NewObject
LoadGraphicHeaderByte7(00)
Wait for Section 01
Pause(14)
UnknownD7(00,0C)
Wait for Section 02
Pause(02)
SuperCommand(00)
LoadAnimation06(03)
Section++
Return
[E095E][E096A][13] NewObject
Wait for Section 01
Pause(14)
Wait for Section 02
Pause(02)
SuperCommand(05)
LoadAnimation06(03)
Return
-[E096B][E097F][21] NewObject
LoadByte2Graphics(30)
Wait for section 01
LoadSpriteAt(00)
Set Priority(03)
Unknown60(00)
Pause(04)
LoadAnimation02(00)
DrawingStatus(70)
Wait for Section 02
DrawingStatus(71)
Return
Very sure I did not touch the 5th object. Sorry I can't tell you exactly what I did, I should have kept a record of what I got rid of, but hopefully you can see what differs between my cyclone and the original cyclone... I think the main changes were that I got rid of Unknown6C(00,04) in the 3rd object, and changed the Unknown6C(00,04) in the 2nd object to UnknownD7(00,0C).
Hope this helps.
Anyways, here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HmNuMpZ27I
I will also write the exact things I had that gave this outcome. It still needs to be tweaked in my opinion. If you can't tell, I made it aim for all enemies, seeing how that big area around enemy option did not work.
-[E0917][E094A][52]NewObject
Set SpeedLevel(0C)
Set FacingNode(0D)
Load Animation06(1D)
Pause(05)
LoadAnimation06(26)
SuperCommand(1D)
Unknown27()
LoadByte2Graphics(30)
Move to Target(02,03)
Hide Shadow
Section++
Supercommand(1F)
Displace00(00)
CallSound(FF)
Section++
SuperCommand(1E)
LoadStaticAnimation(0E,02)
Set Speed Level(0C)
Move To Target(02,19)
Hide Shadow
Unknown28()
UnknownDA(1B)
Teleport(03, 33)
LoadAnimation06(03)
Wait for Section 03
Pause(14)
UnknownA0()
Unknown01()
Return
-[E094B][EO95D][19] NewObject
LoadGraphicHeaderByte7(00)
Wait for Section 01
Pause(14)
UnknownD7(00,0C)
Wait for Section 02
Pause(02)
SuperCommand(00)
LoadAnimation06(03)
Section++
Return
[E095E][E096A][13] NewObject
Wait for Section 01
Pause(14)
Wait for Section 02
Pause(02)
SuperCommand(05)
LoadAnimation06(03)
Return
-[E096B][E097F][21] NewObject
LoadByte2Graphics(30)
Wait for section 01
LoadSpriteAt(00)
Set Priority(03)
Unknown60(00)
Pause(04)
LoadAnimation02(00)
DrawingStatus(70)
Wait for Section 02
DrawingStatus(71)
Return
Very sure I did not touch the 5th object. Sorry I can't tell you exactly what I did, I should have kept a record of what I got rid of, but hopefully you can see what differs between my cyclone and the original cyclone... I think the main changes were that I got rid of Unknown6C(00,04) in the 3rd object, and changed the Unknown6C(00,04) in the 2nd object to UnknownD7(00,0C).
Hope this helps.
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Chrono Trigger Modification / Re: Tech Editor - Period
« on: May 25, 2008, 08:46:32 pm »
Eh, thanks for that. Think I am going to stay away from this editor for a bit, it is really distracting me from that CT hard type I am working on XD. It is just very fun playing with the editor I suppose. Anyways, the last thing I was working on, was trying to adjust Cyclone so that it spins in a bigger circle, and hits all enemies. The all enemies part I got, and getting it to go around in a bigger area was not that bad, although it could look a bit better. Can't record right now. Probably will start up again when I finish my project.
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Chrono Trigger Modification / Re: Tech Editor - Period
« on: May 25, 2008, 06:00:58 pm »
For checking if your rom is headered or unheadered, NSRT can scan it. If needed, it can add or remove headers as well. There are different versions depending on what you use. Here is a link.
http://www.romhacking.net/?category=&Platform=&game=&author=&os=&level=&perpage=20&page=utilities&utilsearch=Go&title=NSRT&desc=
Going to make some copy pasta from my hard type topic... Belongs here better. Also, I did all of this with the 3rd and 4th objects pretty much empty, except for return, which seemed to make it freeze without them.
All I have seen so far, is that in the second object of cyclone, fooling around with the parameters in unknown 6c(00,04), changes the color of the enemy when it is getting hit and how fast it flashes. The first parameter is what effects the color they flash, and the 2nd seems to effect how fast they flash. The lower the number the faster it flashes, although 00 does not produce any flash at all. The variant infront for the most part seems to make you freeze if it is not on 6c.
When I changed that same 6C to C4, this was the result. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvDrLMph-JA
When I changed 6C to D7, I got this instead. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4MrMTCmn2U
Seems like that variable controls movement of both caster and target for the most part.
This is what happens when I keep the variable at 6C, while I changed parameters one and two to (07,03). I also went into the first object, and changed LoadByte2Graphics(30) to 2E. (30->2E) Playing around with the LoadByte2Graphic seems to either give you a different color of Chrono Spinning, and on certain numbers is able to turn him into multiple fireballs while he spins. Whenever it is even, is when it seems to be just normal sword spinning (00,0A,32, etc.), but being on an odd number (01,0B,31, etc.), causes that fire ball effect.
(2E) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxwjWHzaFJA
(FF) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIFGG313xtw
>.>...
http://www.romhacking.net/?category=&Platform=&game=&author=&os=&level=&perpage=20&page=utilities&utilsearch=Go&title=NSRT&desc=
Going to make some copy pasta from my hard type topic... Belongs here better. Also, I did all of this with the 3rd and 4th objects pretty much empty, except for return, which seemed to make it freeze without them.
All I have seen so far, is that in the second object of cyclone, fooling around with the parameters in unknown 6c(00,04), changes the color of the enemy when it is getting hit and how fast it flashes. The first parameter is what effects the color they flash, and the 2nd seems to effect how fast they flash. The lower the number the faster it flashes, although 00 does not produce any flash at all. The variant infront for the most part seems to make you freeze if it is not on 6c.
When I changed that same 6C to C4, this was the result. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvDrLMph-JA
When I changed 6C to D7, I got this instead. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4MrMTCmn2U
Seems like that variable controls movement of both caster and target for the most part.
This is what happens when I keep the variable at 6C, while I changed parameters one and two to (07,03). I also went into the first object, and changed LoadByte2Graphics(30) to 2E. (30->2E) Playing around with the LoadByte2Graphic seems to either give you a different color of Chrono Spinning, and on certain numbers is able to turn him into multiple fireballs while he spins. Whenever it is even, is when it seems to be just normal sword spinning (00,0A,32, etc.), but being on an odd number (01,0B,31, etc.), causes that fire ball effect.
(2E) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxwjWHzaFJA
(FF) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIFGG313xtw
>.>...
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Chrono Trigger Modification / Re: Starting to make a hard type for Chrono Trigger...
« on: May 25, 2008, 05:09:15 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvDrLMph-JA
That is what happened when I set the variable to C4, and you can also see how that slash following the sword is gone. >.>... Yeah, sort of derailing from the topic, so that will be the last thing I say about that tech editor in here, hopefully. Recording messed it up a bit, because the enemy actually moved a lot faster, leaving behind shadows of itself. As said there, that was a purely graphical thing, so no different then a regular cyclone really. Been only playing around with graphics on the editor so far.
That is what happened when I set the variable to C4, and you can also see how that slash following the sword is gone. >.>... Yeah, sort of derailing from the topic, so that will be the last thing I say about that tech editor in here, hopefully. Recording messed it up a bit, because the enemy actually moved a lot faster, leaving behind shadows of itself. As said there, that was a purely graphical thing, so no different then a regular cyclone really. Been only playing around with graphics on the editor so far.
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Chrono Trigger Modification / Re: Starting to make a hard type for Chrono Trigger...
« on: May 25, 2008, 03:01:33 pm »
Well, got both off of romhacking.net, and here are links to them... Not direct downloads, since there is a small description right above the download link.
http://www.romhacking.net/utils/78/
http://www.romhacking.net/utils/79/
They both are pretty user friendly too. The current version of Chrone is able to edit every monsters stats, and the author seems to be working on an item/enemy tactics editor as well. I do know about that level 0 hack, although that is different than what I am aiming for, since mine will keep the leveling system...
About whether they take unheadered/headered roms, they both take only headered it seems. About tech editing, really have not fooled around with it much. All I have seen so far, is that in the second column of cyclone, fooling around with the parameters. in unknown 6c(00,04), changes the color of the enemy when it is getting hit and how fast it flashes. The first parameter is what effects the color they flash, and the 2nd seems to effect how fast they flash. The lower the number the faster it flashes, although 00 does not produce any flash at all. The variant infront for the most part seems to make you freeze if it is not on 6c.
Also, the 4th object in cyclone seems to control that slash that follows the sword when it spins around. If you remove everything except return, you will just see chrono spinning the sword. The third object I removed everything except return, and nothing seemed to change.
I will post a video of something funny looking I made in a second >.>...
http://www.romhacking.net/utils/78/
http://www.romhacking.net/utils/79/
They both are pretty user friendly too. The current version of Chrone is able to edit every monsters stats, and the author seems to be working on an item/enemy tactics editor as well. I do know about that level 0 hack, although that is different than what I am aiming for, since mine will keep the leveling system...
About whether they take unheadered/headered roms, they both take only headered it seems. About tech editing, really have not fooled around with it much. All I have seen so far, is that in the second column of cyclone, fooling around with the parameters. in unknown 6c(00,04), changes the color of the enemy when it is getting hit and how fast it flashes. The first parameter is what effects the color they flash, and the 2nd seems to effect how fast they flash. The lower the number the faster it flashes, although 00 does not produce any flash at all. The variant infront for the most part seems to make you freeze if it is not on 6c.
Also, the 4th object in cyclone seems to control that slash that follows the sword when it spins around. If you remove everything except return, you will just see chrono spinning the sword. The third object I removed everything except return, and nothing seemed to change.
I will post a video of something funny looking I made in a second >.>...
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Chrono Trigger Modification / Starting to make a hard type for Chrono Trigger...
« on: May 25, 2008, 03:57:44 am »
Started it yesterday night, and atm am currently past your first visit to the future. Only making this because I have not seen something like this yet, searching this forum did not work for me, not that experienced yet, and I have spare time to burn. I am using Crone, and Gears to work with changing enemy/equipment stats, which I am quite grateful for. I want to increase the difficulty as much as possible, while not needing any more grinding than the original, just more strategy.
Even the first area is challenging, requiring you to at least bring some tonics with you if you want to get through. Blue imps normally could be killed by 1 hit, could barely damage you, thus being quite easy. Now, they take 2-3 hits depending on criticals, and at level one, by your 2nd turn you will most likely be in the 30's of hp. I will also edit text so that the play is informed that he should always be prepared. Sort of common sense, I know, but some people would probably rush right into the first fight without any provisions, and get themselves killed.
I really like how dragon tank turned out, and he is a lot more fun imo... Also experimenting with magic resist/defense so that you won't always be able to eat every enemy alive by spamming magic/physical skills. Stat changes I am making are also not always based on previous stats, but more on enemy type, level, and enemies in its area (I.e. flying types get more evade). Not sure if I should increase/decrease rewards (exp,gp,tp), and I have also noticed that items are a lot more necessary in this version. Any ideas on that would be helpful.
I honestly have not played Chrono Trigger in quite sometime, so I am currently saving before each area, going through them unaltered, and then proceeding to modify the enemies+bosses. Running through with those changes, and then tweaking them based on what I am aiming for.
Any comments would be appreciated... Even if there has been a hard type made for it, it won't come out the same since every editor/designer's mind is different, right? May have missed some points, but it is really late atm, and I had to rewrite this whole thing again which made me rush this second try.
Sorry if wall o' text bothers you guys.
Even the first area is challenging, requiring you to at least bring some tonics with you if you want to get through. Blue imps normally could be killed by 1 hit, could barely damage you, thus being quite easy. Now, they take 2-3 hits depending on criticals, and at level one, by your 2nd turn you will most likely be in the 30's of hp. I will also edit text so that the play is informed that he should always be prepared. Sort of common sense, I know, but some people would probably rush right into the first fight without any provisions, and get themselves killed.
I really like how dragon tank turned out, and he is a lot more fun imo... Also experimenting with magic resist/defense so that you won't always be able to eat every enemy alive by spamming magic/physical skills. Stat changes I am making are also not always based on previous stats, but more on enemy type, level, and enemies in its area (I.e. flying types get more evade). Not sure if I should increase/decrease rewards (exp,gp,tp), and I have also noticed that items are a lot more necessary in this version. Any ideas on that would be helpful.
I honestly have not played Chrono Trigger in quite sometime, so I am currently saving before each area, going through them unaltered, and then proceeding to modify the enemies+bosses. Running through with those changes, and then tweaking them based on what I am aiming for.
Any comments would be appreciated... Even if there has been a hard type made for it, it won't come out the same since every editor/designer's mind is different, right? May have missed some points, but it is really late atm, and I had to rewrite this whole thing again which made me rush this second try.
Sorry if wall o' text bothers you guys.
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