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Site Updates / Re: Chrono Trigger Ultimania Announced for January 20, 2009 Release

« on: December 04, 2008, 07:59:42 am »

God Thank You, a Chrono Trigger Ultimania at long last, every question could be answered with this, and the little tidbits will never get away.

Can't wait for the Developer Interviews and that "Special" article (Rise of Porre anyone? or should i say Rise of Dalton?)

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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)

« on: November 26, 2008, 10:15:33 pm »

yes it might be just developer's oversight, i even think Frog being human (made us think Magus being alive is not canon!) in the ending animation was oversight too but i don't know who to blame (TOEI or SQUARE?) lol

we really need official info

Chrono Trigger - Perfect Bible FTW?

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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Official CT DS Differences Thread [IMMENSE SPOILERS ON PAGE 5 ONWARDS]

« on: November 26, 2008, 10:12:04 pm »

Hah, I heard Final Fantasy II PSP has the same problem, so Richard is renamed to Ricard, Frioniel is renamed to Firion, etc..

i think they made it Ricard because Richard was somehow common in NA

Frioniel to Firion i guess is because of space limitations or because of a mistranslation (Firiyoneru) (but i liked the Frioniel name better)

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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)

« on: November 26, 2008, 10:07:31 pm »

i think the only thing that can support Eclipse's Magus being from another dimension is that you can kill him in your current game and he'll still appear there and one of his lines "that i don't know if i joined forces with you in your world" (from the Japanese Script translation of Arc) that is if the fight with Dream Devourer with Crono and Co. is canon.

and about the prophet attire, i think that was just added for the mysterious effect (eventhough we all know who he is) and we must also put into consideration that Magus's Hood could have been used by him before, it was not something given to him by Zeal to reflect his Prophet status, that was used by Magus as a disguise because he didn't want anybody in Zeal to know who he was, we can also speculate that after Lavos' defeat, Magus could have journeyed with that hood intact and just showed his face to whoever it is necessary.

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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Eclipse/new ending - Japanese script (SPOILERS)

« on: November 26, 2008, 03:06:08 am »

thanks for the translation Arc, this will dispell rumors that some words and thoughts were lost in the english to japanese translation

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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)

« on: November 26, 2008, 02:55:16 am »

in regards to my A theory (read my previous post in page 7), when Magus said that there are as many worlds as there are potentialities, i was thinking that parallel worlds only existed in 1010 AD when Schala splitted the world for Serge, but i remembered Dinopolis.

1st question, Did Schala have anything to do with the creation of the Reptite Dimension? (where Reptites ruled the world) or did it already exist even before she splitted the World (Home and Another)

if Schala didn't have anything to do with it, that supports Future Magus' statement "there are as many worlds as there are potentialities"

and 2nd question, is Radical Dreamers canon (that it did happen in another dimension) or was it really just an Easter Egg?

because if Schala didn't have anything to do with Dinopolis and Radical Dreamers is canon

we have:

Chrono Trigger (Magus Alive) > Radical Dreamers dimension

Chrono Trigger (Magus Alive) (where the Future Magus you see in DBT came from) > Chrono Cross dimension

Chrono Trigger (Magus Dead killed by Glenn) Dimension

Reptite Dimension


All this dimensions only connect to one Time's Eclipse or DBT (we still don't know the exact nature of this place but i speculate it is connected to all dimensions)

this supports Magus statement: Whether that is the future of the world from which you've come, i do not know (we still don't know how wise this Magus or how old he is but he knows of the existence of parallel worlds)

(this is just theory folks)

please answer my above questions please

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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: If you browse the GameFAQs forums

« on: November 26, 2008, 12:51:42 am »

I tried to keep track of it but it's pointless. Most people that come there are just videogame fans or RPG fans and don't cherish the Chrono series as most people here do. It's also flooded with random questions and already known information, so they're not really a reliable source either.

i agree with this, not being selfish at all but they should just check the compendium, it's got eveything they need to know...

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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)

« on: November 26, 2008, 12:41:28 am »

with the Chrono Trigger - Perfect Bible out, maybe the answer to the Is the new ending canonical? can be answered,

let's hope there's an interview with Kato about the new dungeons and new ending, and let's hope someone buy's this and give us a translation (please if you will!)

i want to know what was the purpose of the Lost Sanctum, why was it opened when the Black Omen first appeared?

the only thing that was new for me is knowing that a Nu might really have eternal life (i thought the Nu's from various timelines where not the same, but this event showed that some of the nu's we encounter throughout the game can be one and the same, and this supports the all begins and ends with nu quote, nothing new i guess)

and i really want to know what was purpose of assimilating the Crono, Marle and Lucca shades, they did power up after getting them,

and i really want to know how the new ending played out, my a theory that the party was present or the b theory with just Magus, i think Mr. Zeality has a good point about it happening with just Magus but we need to wait for the official statement (if there is one)

so let's hope a Masato Kato interview is present in the Chrono Trigger - Perfect Bible!

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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: CT DS - Needed Items [Contribute Inside]

« on: November 26, 2008, 12:28:21 am »

just here to post the Fruit and the Mushroom Locations

http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=items2jv5.jpg

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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: CT DS - Needed Items [Contribute Inside]

« on: November 25, 2008, 08:26:07 am »

Spellslinger - Dimensional Vortex 1000 AD - Lava Area

Apocalypse Arm - Dimensional Vortex 2300 AD - Lost Sanctum Forest Area inside Dimensional Vortex

this 2 could only be obtained when you are in the Nu is Hungry Event in Lost Sanctum 600 AD


Dried Mushroom - Lost Sanctum Prehistory, Exile (Black Reptite) in the mountain path (i'll post a screen tomorrow of the spot where you need to fight it)

Millenia Fruit - Lost Sanctum Prehistory, Slate Imp in the forest (i'll post a screen tomorrow of the spot where you need to fight it)

there will be a short event after you fight this guys and you will get the item, it is not dropped in the battle

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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Chrono Trigger DS Analysis HQ (Spoiler Spoiler, of course)

« on: November 25, 2008, 08:03:26 am »

good day to all the hardcore chrono fans it's been a long wait, but there seems to be hope for a CT 2 because of the new ending, or a Chrono Cross port with extra content, as for Mr. Faustwolf's first 2 questions:

Question 1: Is this ending canonical? and Question 2: There are two Maguses?

a.) i think it is canonical if the event happened before fighting the True Lavos in 1999 AD, and with Crono and company's memories of that event are erased by Schala (we have no idea what happened with them they just got teleported away by Schala - to the End of Time with their memories erased maybe?), if you bring Magus with you, he will have a ! reaction (Magus: !) upon seeing himself so it's feasible the Schala did erase the memories of the people present because if Party Magus saw Future Magus and Dream Devourer he and Crono (and company) would have an idea where to find Schala and find a way to help her (they have a Time Machine right?) hence the need to erase their memories (Schala i think is capable of this and she is still sane unlike the CC Time Devourer)

ok i know some people will counter with the Dream Devourer cannot be formed without first defeating Lavos argument so i'll quote:

Voice (Magus): Here, Lavos is no more. This is the future in which we've defeated him.

Magus clearly states that Crono and the gang including him defeated Lavos and this is the future without Lavos so this is the same Magus in your party albeit stronger and he has apparently a way to go to the Time Eclipse (aka Darkness Beyond Time confirmed by Mr. Shinja).

Magus: Whether that is the future of the world from which you've come, i do not know.

Magus confirms that the Crono Team in front of him could have come from a dimension where Lavos has not been beaten.

Magus: There are as many worlds as there are potentialities.

this statement suggests that there are parallel worlds (ie Chrono Cross) even before Schala splitted the world to Home and Another World or maybe it is already 1010 AD onwards here in this Dimension and the world could have been split because of Serge, but i think this theory of mine still has a lot of holes so it's a big maybe.

Magus: A new foe has arisen here, in this endless expanse that is Time's Eclipse, it feasts upon thoughts, dreams, and memories.

Still waiting for confirmation if the Dream and Time Devourer are one and the same, name localization changed perhaps?


@radicalblues: we have similar theories in the memory wiping event


b.) or this ending happened with just Magus and the Dream Devourer, this is also feasible because Magus could have powered up or Schala could still teleport him away because she is still sane afterall. i forgot his/her name but i've read someone had the same sentiment as my b.) statement


i have some questions of my own...

we need to remember that Time's Eclipse or DBT can only be accessed after finishing the Dimensional Vortex, question is why? in Chrono Cross you need the Time Egg, here after somehow assimilating the Crono, Marle and Lucca shades you had access to DBT, and what powers did the shades really grant Crono, Marle and Lucca plot wise? Why didn't Ayla, Frog, Robo or Magus fought their Shades? and the Lost Sanctum surely has some significance because Kato supervised it (eventhough it really didn't affect CT after all but maybe just maybe..... sequel....) and Dalton and the Rise of Porre scenario should be explained in full (the rise of porre article could really fit the bill but i want it to be official! sequel!)

and last statement:

if you really looked at Dalton and when you fight with him as Once-King Dalton he looks just like a joke character (the soundtrack in his boss battle was Jolly Ol' Spekkio BTW) so it's a little hard to take him seriously as the cost of the fall of guardia. But alas it's CANON 

and just like Eket i want to know the Fates of Crono, Marle and Lucca!

thanks for reading

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Chrono Trigger DS Analysis / Re: Chrono Trigger DS - Reactions (Spoilers)

« on: November 25, 2008, 06:27:23 am »

Good Day to the chrono compendium staff, props to Zeality and his crew for maintaining this site for a long time,

been lurking since 2003, and i have read all the articles and theories, nicely written IMO

on the subject, played the game from start to finish (avoided the compendium for 4 days as to avoid spoilers),

at first i was excited because in my mind, i want to see the extra content which was reported to have shocking revelations and such and i saw this link:

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/11/10/chrono-trigger-ds-to-have-a-new-ending/

when i saw the screen with Frog, Crono and Marle the first thought in my mind is, Crono and Marle survived the Fall of Guardia!

First of all to review, The Lost Sanctum, just like Zeality i was disappointed that it had no impact to the main story, it had no shocking revelations within, (i thought they were the Dragonians from CC and the name Dragonian Sanctuary from early reports is very misleading) but i think Kato is just readying us for something that has to do with this (a plot in the sequel maybe? no one knows...) and the dungeon was just made to eat a lot of your game time (go to the top, go to the forest etc, and that damn banana > looking at you Black Nu)


on to the Dimensional Vortex, the first one i went to is the 1000 AD vortex,  a lot of filler stages in the beginning (another attempt to lengthen the game arggh) then we see the unused Lava stage template from the CT beta (and the singing mountain theme in 12000 BC), then i eventually saw Dalton which i was not surprised because i saw the article - Dalton Spotted in Dimensional Distortion- (i got spoiled a little) now i'm just waiting for him to tell the Porre connection, and voila he said it, an 8 year chrono compendium theory has been proven, but another thing came to my mind, how the hell did Dalton knew of Porre? has he already search 1000 AD and came to contact with them? (maybe because the vortex was in 1000 AD afterall) and because of his statement he has confirmed that Porre did have an army, and the Rise of Porre article does somehow fit, ok fast forward, the 3 boss battle with the Crono, Lucca and Marle Shade, what came to mind was the 3 Chrono Cross Ghost Children (Fighting Crono in Leene/Nadia's bell!).


After finishing it there was no clues to what i'm going to do then i went to the End of Time to oldman Gaspar and he said Hey! as I arrived, you know what's next, the Time Eclipse, as i went in i saw the joystiq screenshot link, the Crono and Marle survived the fall of guardia scenario got shattered for me but another surprise is why is Magus in there? onto the portal we see the Time Devourer! but when i fought it, it was named Dream Devourer (big ?) after the battle then comes the Chrono Cross tie up scenario, Schala informs us that we cannot defeat her in our current state (we got no Chrono Cross buddy) then we see what happens to Magus (after speculating for 8 years what happened with him) he ends up with amnesia in an unknown place, what came to my mind after this?surely they have to make a sequel because Kato still didn't show the Fate of Crono and the Gang (and BTW after reading the speculations here today a Chrono Cross Port with extra content & retconning GUILE could answer the questions but who knows), they could even use the CT 16 bit graphics ala Mega Man 9 using 8 bit.


after playing i was still satisfied, it seems Chrono Trigger has not aged for 13 years and i'm sure today's generation will appreciate this game, well thanks for reading i'll post my thoughts on the plot in the other thread.


thanks again to the Chrono Compendium Staff for maintaining this site for a long long time, and i think it's time to update the Magus and Rise of Porre articles Mr. Zeality