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Chrono / Gameplay Casual Discussion / Re: [ - [ HELP THE CHRONO SERIES OUT by doing something EASY ] - ]
« on: March 08, 2009, 02:28:21 pm »
Just send a PM, hope it'll be something exciting. And yes, Lavos IS god. Just sayin... 
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Welcome / Birthday / Seeya! Forum / Re: Welcome, welcome!
« on: December 04, 2008, 06:07:01 pm »
Wow, I got so carried away in a discussion that I didn't even notice there was a welcome thread! Well then, allow me to properly introduce myself.
I am known as the Sword Fighter, Dago. I have only played Chrono Trigger for two years, but I already love it! When I finish my newly acquired Chrono Trigger DS, I think I'm going to try my hand at its sequel, Chrono Cross. The things that intrigue me about Chrono Trigger is its detail, subtleties and hidden meanings. I hope I'll find the same when I play 'Cross. Oh, and pleased to meet you all!
I am known as the Sword Fighter, Dago. I have only played Chrono Trigger for two years, but I already love it! When I finish my newly acquired Chrono Trigger DS, I think I'm going to try my hand at its sequel, Chrono Cross. The things that intrigue me about Chrono Trigger is its detail, subtleties and hidden meanings. I hope I'll find the same when I play 'Cross. Oh, and pleased to meet you all!
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Lavos, the Planet, and other Entities / Re: Lavos's actual size
« on: December 04, 2008, 05:54:56 pm »
Then again, the party's overworld sprites are also a lot larger than they are in reality (I mean, c'mon! They're as big as a friggin house!). It is only natural to assume the same for Lavos.
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: So, what happens to the queen...
« on: December 04, 2008, 05:51:25 pm »Uhh by looking around maybe? She apparently also spent time atop the Omen, and even a blind mole could see that in this time the world was already destroyed by Lavos.
She can still see in what time period she's in. For example, enter the Black Omen in 1000 AD and she will say that its just 999 years before Lavos destroys the world. If done in another time, for example 600 AD, she will say that its 1399 years. She obviously knows in what time period she is when facing the party (by the way, she says this while standing inside the Black Omen).
But I'm not arguing wether or not the Black Omen transcends time. I believe it does, to some extent. I'm actually saying that the Black Omen, aka Black Dream, is exactly as its name implies, and so are Queen Zeal and the Mammon Machine.
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Characters, Plot, and Themes / Re: So, what happens to the queen...
« on: December 04, 2008, 01:48:42 pm »
Well, I've always thought that, since the Omen's name is Black Dream in Japanese, powerful Chrono characters like the gurus have some sort of living dreams (well, at least Melchior), and the entire game is about memories and dreams (Dream Stone? Green Dream? Entity's Flashbacks?), the Black Omen is nothing more than a dream(nightmare?) created by Lavos. Queen Zeal obviously is a part of it.
Let me explain why. After the entire Zeal/Dalton quest, the Black Omen suddenly appears out of the blue, after Lavos had just gone to sleep again. The Queen also differs slightly from before. Suddenly, she now has the ability to fade and teleport anywhere she wants, but this is apparently limited to the Black Omen. She also exists within every time period after 12,000 BC. She even has the knowledge about Lavos' future eruption in 1999 AD. Now, one may actually say that the Black Omen itself transcends time, but I have some explanation for either possibility.
1) If the Black Omen does indeed transcend time, how then does the Queen know (in 2300 AD) that Lavos had already destroyed the Earth? How would she even know what time period she is in at the moment?
2) The Black Omen not being bound by time could also further explain its strong connection to Lavos' power, since neither one of them are heavily influenced by time's flow.
What I also would like to note is that the Black Omen is filled with mutants, aliens and even a Lavos spawn. They didn't have that kind of technology in Zeal Kingdom. Plus the Mammon Machine, which was already broken and not even designed for combat anyway, was attacking you in some kind of other dimension.
The main thing that actually set me to believe that Zeal and the Omen were dreans was after you defeat Zeal. She would transform back, call out for Lavos and disappear with the Black Omen altogether, after which Lavos arises from the earth. Now, the way they both disappeared (slowly fading away from bottom to top), to me, implied that Lavos awoke from his living dreams, causing them to disappear as he crawled forth from the ground.
BTW, first post.
Hello everyone!
Let me explain why. After the entire Zeal/Dalton quest, the Black Omen suddenly appears out of the blue, after Lavos had just gone to sleep again. The Queen also differs slightly from before. Suddenly, she now has the ability to fade and teleport anywhere she wants, but this is apparently limited to the Black Omen. She also exists within every time period after 12,000 BC. She even has the knowledge about Lavos' future eruption in 1999 AD. Now, one may actually say that the Black Omen itself transcends time, but I have some explanation for either possibility.
1) If the Black Omen does indeed transcend time, how then does the Queen know (in 2300 AD) that Lavos had already destroyed the Earth? How would she even know what time period she is in at the moment?
2) The Black Omen not being bound by time could also further explain its strong connection to Lavos' power, since neither one of them are heavily influenced by time's flow.
What I also would like to note is that the Black Omen is filled with mutants, aliens and even a Lavos spawn. They didn't have that kind of technology in Zeal Kingdom. Plus the Mammon Machine, which was already broken and not even designed for combat anyway, was attacking you in some kind of other dimension.
The main thing that actually set me to believe that Zeal and the Omen were dreans was after you defeat Zeal. She would transform back, call out for Lavos and disappear with the Black Omen altogether, after which Lavos arises from the earth. Now, the way they both disappeared (slowly fading away from bottom to top), to me, implied that Lavos awoke from his living dreams, causing them to disappear as he crawled forth from the ground.
BTW, first post.
Hello everyone!
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