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Site Updates / Re: C&D: Directors' Response
« on: May 13, 2009, 03:11:04 am »
Wow. Just wow. I am ashamed to call myself a geek. Most of the people responding to this news are retarded.
Do you really think that Square spent 5 years monitoring Crimson Echoes? Really? Do you know anyone who has been at the same job for five years? Let alone who would bother to calender and follow a fan project for that long? Anyone who thinks Square held off till the end because they're evil is just a moron.
I am appalled at the rancor and venom I've seen bandied about here and in other forums. You think a company is evil, malicious, soulless dicks, just because they sent a cease and desist on this one fan game? Now I really respect the creativity and dedication that went into Crimson Echoes, but come on! 99.99999% of companies protect their IP. Sure, you could point to a few exceptions like Valve, Nintendo and Capcom--BUT THEY'RE THE EXCEPTIONS. And I promise you they still send cease and desists too on outrageous acts of infringement.
And I hate to say, but Crimson Echoes was an outrageous act of infringement. No way in hell it's fair use. Red Neck, that was a decent analysis from someone who attended a class, but you're insane to think this is even debatable. Fair use is a pipe dream.
Your best argument would be the Game Genie case, but go ahead and read it for yourself. The reason that wasn't infringement is only because the Game Genie itself didn't have any infringing content on it. You guys have a patch that contains a whole new game (unless my reading of the forums is totaly off). Whole new plot, dialogue, etc. Even going by Game Genie, you're up sh*% creek.
All of you are talking about how unprofessional the cease and desist was. How so? Point to a sentence that was cruel. They set it out and threatened to sue. They didn't sue yet. They didn't go after all the other stuff on the Compendium. They didn't go after al the scripts and other stuff you havelisted in the left column. So far as I can tell, they were pretty narrowly focused. It would've been downright inane for them to demand taking down Crimson Echoes but letting the other mods stay up.
A few people compared this cease and desist to the old one. The new one is by the inhouse lawyers. You guys have probably never worked int he real world, but inhouse lawyers are much more business-like than law firms. Law firms get paid by the hour. They use stupid legalese. Inhouse guys go straight to the point. I don't see anything bad about the letter, except maybe they didn't fully understand Temporal Flux, which is totally beside the point.
So why all this hatred? And especially calling them immoral dicks? I get it, you guys think you're chaotic good, doing what you know is right in the face of unfair rules. But you're showing yourselves to be so much more hateful and ignorant than the thing you're attacking. Ths lynch mob mentality and ignorant self-righteousness is disgusting.
Do you really think that Square spent 5 years monitoring Crimson Echoes? Really? Do you know anyone who has been at the same job for five years? Let alone who would bother to calender and follow a fan project for that long? Anyone who thinks Square held off till the end because they're evil is just a moron.
I am appalled at the rancor and venom I've seen bandied about here and in other forums. You think a company is evil, malicious, soulless dicks, just because they sent a cease and desist on this one fan game? Now I really respect the creativity and dedication that went into Crimson Echoes, but come on! 99.99999% of companies protect their IP. Sure, you could point to a few exceptions like Valve, Nintendo and Capcom--BUT THEY'RE THE EXCEPTIONS. And I promise you they still send cease and desists too on outrageous acts of infringement.
And I hate to say, but Crimson Echoes was an outrageous act of infringement. No way in hell it's fair use. Red Neck, that was a decent analysis from someone who attended a class, but you're insane to think this is even debatable. Fair use is a pipe dream.
Your best argument would be the Game Genie case, but go ahead and read it for yourself. The reason that wasn't infringement is only because the Game Genie itself didn't have any infringing content on it. You guys have a patch that contains a whole new game (unless my reading of the forums is totaly off). Whole new plot, dialogue, etc. Even going by Game Genie, you're up sh*% creek.
All of you are talking about how unprofessional the cease and desist was. How so? Point to a sentence that was cruel. They set it out and threatened to sue. They didn't sue yet. They didn't go after all the other stuff on the Compendium. They didn't go after al the scripts and other stuff you havelisted in the left column. So far as I can tell, they were pretty narrowly focused. It would've been downright inane for them to demand taking down Crimson Echoes but letting the other mods stay up.
A few people compared this cease and desist to the old one. The new one is by the inhouse lawyers. You guys have probably never worked int he real world, but inhouse lawyers are much more business-like than law firms. Law firms get paid by the hour. They use stupid legalese. Inhouse guys go straight to the point. I don't see anything bad about the letter, except maybe they didn't fully understand Temporal Flux, which is totally beside the point.
So why all this hatred? And especially calling them immoral dicks? I get it, you guys think you're chaotic good, doing what you know is right in the face of unfair rules. But you're showing yourselves to be so much more hateful and ignorant than the thing you're attacking. Ths lynch mob mentality and ignorant self-righteousness is disgusting.
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