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Site Updates / Zeality interview transcribed
« on: October 02, 2005, 01:15:15 am »
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UE: Let's switch gears; I want to talk about Chrono Cross. There's a lot of mixed feelings in the community about Chrono Cross -- a lot of people loved it, a lot of people absolutely loathed it, and don't see it as part of the Chrono series. Personally, when I played Chrono Cross, I thought it was great, and then, this is where you helped me out -- because Chrono Cross's plot is a little hard to understand the first time through -- you pointed me in the right direction, I read this huge plot summary, and it blew me away. I think that Chrono Cross is actually a better game after you baet it and think about it.


Small typo on the last line- baet.

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ZEAL: I haven't researched it really, since I haven't been able to come by those sales figures that everyon ewants -- butI


last 2 words are incomplete, and that paragraph has some other typos- awhile and ahs instead of has.

Please excuse the overperfectionism on my part, great job ZeaLitY!

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Polling / How did you like the Crimson Echoes demo?
« on: August 31, 2005, 04:03:51 am »
Great demo, would've liked to see subtle hints of integration/plot links with Chrono Cross, though (apart from the Porre/Truce conflict). The meeting with the representatives was a little cheesy IMO, something more formal might've been more appropriate. Great demo nevertheless, thanks for giving us the chance to play it and I look forward to the end result!

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Site Updates / CHRONO TRIGGER TURNS TEN
« on: August 22, 2005, 03:52:44 am »
HAPPY BIRTHDAY CT!!!
Let's hope for a sequel soon, and usher in another 10 years of Chrono!

Just listened to the music- hats off to bLiNd- amazing stuff!

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Haha that was my exact feeling- seeing the bright colors it just put me off. And when I heard Time's Scar for the first time (actually a clip of it on the official Square website) I thought it was pretty crap.
When I read the reviews and heard NO reference to Chrono, Lucca, Robo or even Lavos I thought what the hell IS this game about?

Then when I played it, my thoughts became myth. Gaia's Navel is pretty good, it's cheerful and upbeat.

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Q. for ZeaLitY: I found this on a ForumPlanet article- http://www.forumplanet.com/rpgplanet/chronicles/topic.asp?fid=5771&tid=1583963&p=2

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Conditions are looking better for Break, anyway. Grandia is a departure from the Final Fantasy saturation they've been doing, and it's also a small series like the Chrono series (in terms of installments, not scope, because Chrono...kicks ass in that regard). Mitsuda arrange coming in 2005, Kato possibly back at SE = things are shaping up.


The post, as you may recognise is yours and I thought I should post it, because I hadn't heard of this news until today (the post was dated April) and thus did not take it into account when posting. If Masato Kato really does go back... well I don't wanna get hyped up until it's official... have there been any further updates since then?

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I agree, Chrono Cross was a masterpiece. And I think because of the 5 year period between the game releases, it gave the chance for the Chrono Trigger gamers to grow up and enjoy the more mature story. Unfortunately it seems some fans haven't grown up at all.

ZeaLitY, if you're gonna make a feature, check http://www.yamoslair.com/ccsucks.html The article is a crock, but judging from the length of the review, this guy's serious. You might wanna see some of the points of the opposition.

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Firstly, I must commend ZeaLitY for the excellent editorial How NOT to get SE to make a CT sequel. After 2 (or 3) major projects getting shut down this year by SE's lawyer's C&D letters, I think it's time to clear out the issue about CT sequels, CC sequels, CB or any other Chrono title.
I have nowhere near the expertise on the Chrono series as the other players on this forum, but I share in an equal love of both titles. It saddens me however to see extremists popping up who are totally deluded and think SE's an evil corporate giant only willing to make Final Fantasies with progressively shorter skirts. Well, drawing on the interview with Masato Kato from the Procyon studios, I hope I can take the issue a little deeper. A note: I know the link was already posted, but here it is again http://www.cocoebiz.com/mitsuda/english/friends/kato.html

Why doesn't SE make another Chrono title? Both Masato Kato and Mitsuda left SE, and as Mr. Kato said:

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For the company, there was probably a strong opposition against hiring a person who had just quit his job to become a freelance, but from our point of view, it didn't matter if he was a freelance or if he was an employee; we chose him because we needed that one and only "Chrono Sound".


Okay so there's the word 'probably' there, but Mr Kato obviously has strong feelings that he upset a few people at SE during the project of Chrono Cross. Throughout the interview (in 1999) he gives hints of his dissatisfaction of Square:

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My feelings about SQUARE right now are ... Let's not go there right now... Well, there's no real deep meaning behind that, but...


I won't comment on this bit.. but about 2 or 3 years later, he left Square.

Now Mr Kato himself admitted that he wasn't the 'father' of CT, that he was just one of the story writers. But he contributed the 12000 BC age to the game. Imagine CT without Zeal. Isn't Zeal what makes Chrono Trigger? Well, even if you have other views, Zeal definitely makes CC.
Mr Kato doesn't show the amount of passion that some fans do. Take the quote about Chrono Cross:

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OK. Since I may never have the chance to say this kind of thing anywhere else... I'll go ahead and say it. After the announcement of "Cross" this time, I heard a lot of voices out there that were saying things like, "Man, this isn't CHRONO". To tell you the truth, I was gravely disappointed. Yes, the platform changed; and yes, there were many parts that changed dramatically from the previous work. But in my view, the whole point in making Chrono Cross was to make a new Chrono with the best available skills and technologies of today. I never had any intentions of just taking the system from Trigger and moving it onto the PlayStation console. That's why I believe that Cross is Cross, and NOT Trigger 2. The thing that I can't understand is how could people possibly declare that this isn't Chrono? And for these people, I can't help but wonder what it was that Chrono meant to them...? Is it possible that none of the messages that I tried to send out to these people never really got through to them?


So even if we get a sequel, take this quote:

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"there's no use in making something similar to before" so if possible, I'd like to work with him and take on something new and even wierder again. Of course we'll still keep whatever we feel needs to be kept unchanged, so no worries there.


Perhaps we won't get a Chrono sequel, if we get anything at all. What is Chrono? At the risk of being flamed, banished and burned at the stake, I believe what Mr. Kato himself believes (he stated this in a cNet interview): something innovative and new, utilising the technology of the day. Chrono Trigger was new, but people wanted the "same old" in Chrono Cross. What we all got was something entirely new- and that's what makes the Chrono series what it is. Love it or hate it, you'll end up loving it :P

So how does this tie in? Don't be deluded that online petitions and such attempts to get Square to make a sequel are going to get us what we all want.

First, there's the relationship between Yasonuri Mitsuda, Masato Kato and Square- these are pretty much essential ingredients for a Chrono game (well, many would say that the square part is debatable)
Then, there's the risk of SE being money-hungry corporate sleazebags and making a sequel... a rushed one that disgraces the series.
There's also the fact of the controversy of a new Chrono title: give fans another Chrono and they'll hate you for changing the characters, plot, storyline, etc.
Finally, Square owns the trademarks to the Chronos. Unless Masato Kato is asked to do another sequel or Square decides to risk another Chrono all on its own (will it be the same?), the future of an OFFICIAL Chrono game is bleak.

Perhaps we need to stop acting as if Chrono is some holier-than-thou game because that's not the approach the games were born out of. Remember the magic when you played it the first time, and look at the Chrono community now!

Well, the reason I posted was to get some other opinions. From the above, it's not too hard to derive that the situation is pretty complex, if not tense. There's too much of this 'SQUARE ENIX BETTER MAKE A SEQUEL OR I'M GONNA SUE THEM.... when I turn 18 that is...'. What are your thoughts- when do you think we'll see the next official Chrono game? Will we ever see one? Does anyone have any updates?

Cheers for reading,

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