Serge and Leena Scene at Cape Howl

[utunnels]

I'll check if I have a save tonight.

[alfadorredux]

I remember seeing both the Nikki/Kid and the Leena scenes in the script while I was working on Chrono Helix (IIRC, Nikki/Kid is in quite a late chapter), but I've never bothered trying to trigger either, so I don't know what the preconditions are.

where's a script dump when ya need it!! I've missed out! chrono cross in spriggs house? I don't even have a clue what THAT means!

[Purple cat coughs and uses tail to point at the fifth item in the first section of the left sidebar] The script the Compendium already has is about as good as you're going to get unless someone is willing to put in a lot of work with yaz0r's pre-C&D partial disassembly of the fieldscript code. Cross stores the script internally by game location, not in chronological order, and it's a real bear to figure out what the preconditions for a given segment are. Oh, and did I mention that plot segments and NPC conversations are all jumbled together, with the debug menu thrown in?

As for "chrono cross in spriggs house"[sic], take it back there after you get it in a New Game+ and see what happens.

[X4220]

Looks like those scenes adds significantly to characters/story/atmosphere in the game, I don't understand why developers tried to hide them.
For example, campfire scene on Water Dragon Isle should be absolutely mandatory, instead it is easily to miss really important part of Kid's (and Lucca's) lifestory....

[chi_z]

 [SS Zelbess (Home)]
 
Kid:
   ......?
   Where the bloody hell
   is Nikki?
   I wanted to ask him
   somethin'...

Kid:
   I'm gonna go look
   for him...
   Wait here.
   
Kid:
   Hey, Nikki...
   I wanna ask ya somethin'.

Nikki:
   Yes?
   What is it?

Kid:
   It's been botherin' me
   for a long time...
   How'd ya come up with
   the name of your band?
   
Nikki:
   Oh...that...
   
Nikki:
   Well, there's a story behind it.
   When I first started out on
   my own, I couldn't even break
   the top 100 chart.
   Inc17001What's even worse was
   that nobody accepted my looks,
   or the meaning behind my songs.
   I was way depressed...
   I didn't think I had the talent,
   so I stopped believing in myself.
   I was this close to quitting...

Nikki:
   But one day, a woman stopped
   by my trailer and said...
   '"Your songs sing of
    magical dreams.
    They're beautiful..."'
   Those words made me
   so happy...
   That's when I decided that
   if I were ever to have my
   own band, I would name it
   '"Magical Dreamers!!!"'
   
Kid:
   Huh...
   I think I might have
   an idea who that
   woman might be...
   
Nikki:
   ......!
   You know her!?
   Inc17002Please, tell me
   who she is!
   I've been wanting to
   thank her all these years!

Kid:
   ......
   One of these days, I'll tell ya.
   ...When everythin's over.
   
Nikki:
   Looks like you have
   your reasons...
   OK, then,
   that's a promise.

Kid:
   Yeah, sure...
   But when that time comes,
   let me hear some of
   yer old songs.









and:



 [Cape Howl (Home)]
 
Leena:
   ......
   You really are
   Serge, aren't you...?

Leena:
   You're alive in this world,
   living a normal life with me.

Leena:
   But in the other world,
   ...you're dead...
   And I'm living a different
   life without you...

Leena:
   Sure is strange, though...
   
Leena:
   You couldn't tell
   from the sea or the sky...
   They look the same...
   
Leena:
   So tell me, Serge.
   How's it going with
   the me in this world?

Leena:
   Have we kissed yet?
   
Leena:
   Well? Well?
   
Leena:
   Come on!
   Tell me!
 
 [Arni (Home)]
 
Leena:
   Heeey!?
   That girl looks
   like me...!?
   
Leena:
   Hah-hah... Surprised?
   Well, there's something
   real deep behind all this.
   You should have Serge
   explain it to you.
   When it's all over, of course.
   
Leena:
   Wow... It just
   seems so weird.
   I don't know what's
   going on, but
   good luck!

Leena:
   You got it!
   Leave it to me!
   
Leena:
   Serge!
   Where have you been!?
   You had me worried sick!
   You just suddenly disappeared
   from the beach.
   That was some magic trick!
   Don't even think about
   pulling that one again.
   Once is enough for me.




It seems I've done both of those on at least a few occassions as I can actually recall the exact wording in places. Can't help but imagine I've done the sprigg's house kurono kuross as well seeing as how you just walk in the house.

[utunnels]

Just downloaded a save from gamefaqs and tested.
And yes, it requires the Glenn branch, otherwise you won't see this scene.

[MyNewPony]

Thanks a bunch utunnels!

I wonder where I could find these other 'secret' scenes.

[Isi]

Actually, I just finished playing through CC while not going through the Glenn route, and I managed to get the scene, but only when I got back to Home World to get the Ice Breath, after the ghost ship. I tried to view it when going to the Hydra Marshes, but it didn't show then.

This was a new game+ after having done the Glenn route on the previous save though, not sure if it matters.

[Yourgingerestfan]

Looks like those scenes adds significantly to characters/story/atmosphere in the game, I don't understand why developers tried to hide them.
For example, campfire scene on Water Dragon Isle should be absolutely mandatory, instead it is easily to miss really important part of Kid's (and Lucca's) lifestory....

Too True !!

I've recently been playing through again myself and trying to document the various ways that Water Dragon Isle can change depending on decisions, in some choices I made ...the end result ended up with the fairies being killed by a group of Lagoonates !

I'm still intrigued about this Kid and Serge Cape Howl scene though, I assume that its on the 'Save Kid' Branch, if the Leena scene is on ' Leave Kid' Branch.

[chi_z]

whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa...whoa.......whoa................whoa..........lagoonates?? do tell!

[Kodokami]

Yeah. If you ignore Water Dragon Isle entirely (by way of going straight through Mount Pyre), you will later find the island has been overrun by Lagoonates. You have to follow Glenn's route for this to happen.

Maybe it happens regardless if you take Glenn's route. Not sure.

[Yourgingerestfan]

Yeah. If you ignore Water Dragon Isle entirely (by way of going straight through Mount Pyre), you will later find the island has been overrun by Lagoonates. You have to follow Glenn's route for this to happen.

Maybe it happens regardless if you take Glenn's route. Not sure.

Correct !
You cannot touch Water Dragon Isle at all for this to happen, when you return for the Blue Relic, all the fairies are dead ...from the Dwarves, and the Lagoonates in turn have killed the Dwarves!

I still need to see if this can happen in the 'Save Kid' route.

[chi_z]

Oh I think I may have done this once, 99 times out of 100 I save kid but I think once I went through with glenn just to see.

[Yourgingerestfan]

Its still quite an Easter Egg, as in Glenn Branch ...Fargo and other party members still suggest travelling to the Water Dragon Isle for 'protection'. You can save the Fairies in Glenn's path as well ^^ they dont always have to die.

[ImnotLeena]

Lol, thread necromancy

If anyone cares, you can also get this scene after you return to Termina with Kid healed on the Razzly route, swap to Home World and go to the Cape, but you musn't bring Kid or it won't happen

[Nangbaby]

Yeah. If you ignore Water Dragon Isle entirely (by way of going straight through Mount Pyre), you will later find the island has been overrun by Lagoonates. You have to follow Glenn's route for this to happen.

Maybe it happens regardless if you take Glenn's route. Not sure.

Correct !
You cannot touch Water Dragon Isle at all for this to happen, when you return for the Blue Relic, all the fairies are dead ...from the Dwarves, and the Lagoonates in turn have killed the Dwarves!

I still need to see if this can happen in the 'Save Kid' route.

Since this topic has already been bumped, I would like to add that in my very first playthrough of Chrono Cross, I actually did just that and plowed through Mount Pyre, because I was stupid and didn't realize I needed to cross dimensions in order to do the needful.  I assumed it that going through the lava was like the first Final Fantasy where it was a literal trial by fire.

So when I saw the Lagoonates later in the game, I had no idea what was going on, and I definitely didn't know the fairies were saveable.