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« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2006, 11:04:53 pm »
Stay on-topic, OK?

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« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2006, 11:50:05 pm »
Ok, sorry.

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« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2006, 01:47:16 pm »
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Marle and her family dillema's and pre-history with her parents causing her to bear a deviance from her father and go out of her way to disobey him.

Lucca and her angst over her inability to save her mother, which drove her interest in machines so she won't let it happen again.

Robo, his history with Mother Brain and Atropos, and how he intended as a spy, decided to be his own person.

...Ayla, I can't say much for.


I'll give you Lucca. Marle not so much, since they don't really delve at all into what truely caused the breach. The relationship was not always Marle running away, she is only 17ish. Sure her mother died, but that doesn't explain anything. First of all Robo didn't decide to be his own "person" until afetr Lucca reprogrammed him and he found out what had destroyed the future. Yes he was originally designed to spy on the humans, but that went out the window when Robo was reprogrammed. Also, that might not even be true. for all we know Lavos's destruction of the planet damaged Mother Brain's circuitry and caused her to go haywire.

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« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2006, 09:12:19 pm »
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Marle and her family dillema's and pre-history with her parents causing her to bear a deviance from her father and go out of her way to disobey him.

Lucca and her angst over her inability to save her mother, which drove her interest in machines so she won't let it happen again.

Robo, his history with Mother Brain and Atropos, and how he intended as a spy, decided to be his own person.

...Ayla, I can't say much for.


I'll give you Lucca. Marle not so much, since they don't really delve at all into what truely caused the breach. The relationship was not always Marle running away, she is only 17ish. Sure her mother died, but that doesn't explain anything. First of all Robo didn't decide to be his own "person" until afetr Lucca reprogrammed him and he found out what had destroyed the future. Yes he was originally designed to spy on the humans, but that went out the window when Robo was reprogrammed. Also, that might not even be true. for all we know Lavos's destruction of the planet damaged Mother Brain's circuitry and caused her to go haywire.


Or that with the possibility of there being more robots than humans, Mother Brain thought that now the machines could take over, and she'd be the new leader. That reflects FATE's dream of creating a new speices of itself.

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« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2006, 12:28:09 pm »
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Marle and her family dillema's and pre-history with her parents causing her to bear a deviance from her father and go out of her way to disobey him.

Lucca and her angst over her inability to save her mother, which drove her interest in machines so she won't let it happen again.

Robo, his history with Mother Brain and Atropos, and how he intended as a spy, decided to be his own person.

...Ayla, I can't say much for.


I'll give you Lucca. Marle not so much, since they don't really delve at all into what truely caused the breach. The relationship was not always Marle running away, she is only 17ish. Sure her mother died, but that doesn't explain anything. First of all Robo didn't decide to be his own "person" until afetr Lucca reprogrammed him and he found out what had destroyed the future. Yes he was originally designed to spy on the humans, but that went out the window when Robo was reprogrammed. Also, that might not even be true. for all we know Lavos's destruction of the planet damaged Mother Brain's circuitry and caused her to go haywire.


Or that with the possibility of there being more robots than humans, Mother Brain thought that now the machines could take over, and she'd be the new leader. That reflects FATE's dream of creating a new speices of itself.


Either way, it proves that Robo wasn't intended to be a spy for the robots.

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« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2006, 12:21:51 pm »
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Marle and her family dillema's and pre-history with her parents causing her to bear a deviance from her father and go out of her way to disobey him.

Lucca and her angst over her inability to save her mother, which drove her interest in machines so she won't let it happen again.

Robo, his history with Mother Brain and Atropos, and how he intended as a spy, decided to be his own person.

...Ayla, I can't say much for.


I'll give you Lucca. Marle not so much, since they don't really delve at all into what truely caused the breach. The relationship was not always Marle running away, she is only 17ish. Sure her mother died, but that doesn't explain anything. First of all Robo didn't decide to be his own "person" until afetr Lucca reprogrammed him and he found out what had destroyed the future. Yes he was originally designed to spy on the humans, but that went out the window when Robo was reprogrammed. Also, that might not even be true. for all we know Lavos's destruction of the planet damaged Mother Brain's circuitry and caused her to go haywire.


Or that with the possibility of there being more robots than humans, Mother Brain thought that now the machines could take over, and she'd be the new leader. That reflects FATE's dream of creating a new speices of itself.


Either way, it proves that Robo wasn't intended to be a spy for the robots.


Maybe it was more like an accident? Robo has a certian quality about his makup that makes him different from the rest of the R-series, but that difference dosn't seem intentional. The R-series was programmed by the mother brain, correct? Yet they all believe Robo is defective walking and talking and interacting with the humans. Its possible he defected so Mother Brain decided instead of just trashing him she'd send him out to collect data on the humans. An unintentional, but no doubt plausible occurance.

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« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2006, 02:11:51 pm »
Nah, I don't think the R-Series were let on the scoop. I don't think Mother Brain had a link with her Robots (Like I think FATE had no link with Lynx, which explains how he wasn't fooled by the Circuit), there's the simple fact that Atropos says that Mother Brain programmed her badly.

Robo was programmed to gather data on the humans, and the R-Series, just plain old guard bots (And not very strong ones, at that) designed to guard a factroy for a dome that was hardly functional anyway? Please, they're as important as the Debuggers. If not less.

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« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2006, 02:45:35 pm »
Most likely those guys were reproggramed like Atropos to believe that Robo was made to be a spy, when in truth he wasn't.

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« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2006, 07:27:59 pm »
Mother Brain is a cruel being... once she has the info she needs, there is no need to keep the unintentional informant, because that informant could turn out to beat the crap out of MB if "manipulated" by the humans...

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« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2006, 08:14:50 pm »
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Mother Brain is a cruel being... once she has the info she needs, there is no need to keep the unintentional informant, because that informant could turn out to beat the crap out of MB if "manipulated" by the humans...


She's not just cruel, but -deadly- smart (comes from being a giant electronic brain like thing, y'know). If she truely had the intent to simply send Robo to the humans, gather the required information, then "dispose of him" then why didn't she have some kind of self destruct system built into him that'd be activatable by MB at whatever point she required? Even simply shutting the model down posed the threat of reactivation. Now, Lucca is one smart cookie, but she's no robotic supergenius. Hell, she's not even from the same -century- and she was able to reactivate Robo. I still suport the idea that Robo truely was malfuntioning, and MB adapted to the circumstances. Or that Robo was built just the same as all the R-series and was picked out at random to be the informant. He's nothing special, he might even be a fluke.

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« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2006, 07:23:23 pm »
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Now, Lucca is one smart cookie, but she's no robotic supergenius.


Um....She DID invent robotkind as we know it...

and Atropos acted just as "human" as Robo before she died.