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Fanart update & Prerelease tidbit
« on: May 11, 2006, 01:42:57 am »
Firstly, a few generous contributions have been made to the fan art section this last week. Kicking things off is MitchelHunt, who submitted a drawing of Lynx. Secondly, we have Machan, who did the Radical Dreamers art featured in Radical Dreamers Week; if you recall, she did a certain "Blueprint of Kid." Well, she's finished up the ones for Magil and Serge. They're pure eye candy for any fan, and should really please Radical Dreamers fans who clamor for more attention to this richly imaginative text adventure. Lastly, we have a really innovative piece. It's a wireframe model of Crono, and it's well done! Here is the close-up. You can also view all these pieces at the Fan Art page. And, last of all, an interesting tidbit in the Prerelease locations Guardia Castle and Heckran Cave has been found. Strangely, the "pair of eyes" sprite that appears behind the jailbars in Norstein Bekkler's tent appears on a wall in each of these areas.

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Re: Fanart update & Prerelease tidbit
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2006, 01:45:06 am »
Jeez, we've had an update almost every day of this last week. Can't beat that.

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Re: Fanart update & Prerelease tidbit
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2006, 01:45:27 pm »
Yeah. ^^
Nice Fanart and wireframe model.  :shock:  :)

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Re: Fanart update & Prerelease tidbit
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2006, 04:19:01 pm »
Hi! I just joined the forum but seconds or a minute ago.  I look forward to making positive contributions to the site.

But first, this fanart update caught my eye. So I checked out all the fanart.

Damnit.  Why do you all have this obsession with Lynx?  And some of your fanart SUCKS!  I've been a fanart collector for some time, and you know what?  There are good rules for submitting fan art.

1) If you can take the time to draw a picture you plan on submitting to a site, do not do it inside a ledger or spiral pad of some kind!  Your notebook and the desk you took a picture of -- yeah, those are pictures *of* pictures, lame-asses -- are not helpful in capturing what you are trying to convey.  Tear that fucker out of the notebook.

2) Fuck stick-figures and speech-bubbles.

3) A picture of real people in their costumes is not fanart. Period.

4) Custom sprites, though fanciful, are also not fanart.

5) You know that when you scan a picture you drew by hand, it looks horribly faded.  Take the time and use some image editing software freeware and fix the color saturation and brightness/tint of your drawing. 

6)  If you submit a photo of genuine artwork -- such as the new wire frame Chrono -- please, PLEASE use a suitable background.  My methods for doctoring up the fanwork in my collection  was able to reveal some good shadow and context, but it's not nearly as nice as it could have been if you had just submitted it against a black background with good overhead and foreground lighting.  Easy to do.




Seriously, this HP Presario 6000 w/ XP home came with "Microsoft Picture It! Express 7.0", and all I have to do is auto-fix the brightness then contrast then tint, and alot of these sketches suddenly look marvelous.  Even black/white ones.  You'd be surprised how far it can go.  I also like to use Picasa 2, Gimp, and sometimes the "sharpen" effect that came with the adobe photoshop editor freeware that came with the reader 7.x update.  I can really do marvelous shit with your drawings guys.

In any case, some of the fanart here is pretty good.  For example, DarkSerge.jpg.  Very nuanced expression with the eyes. Good job. And Kid25ey.  Very strong personality.  Excellent. And when I autofixed the color saturation/brightness/contrast/tint, it really came out looking nice.

That picture Irenes-miki small.jpg. -- Ok, I get it. You like lesbians.  Nice job detaling the contour cleavage of the thighs vs. groins.  Ugh.  Don't submit your masturbation material.

Some of you do try to add realistic contour and curves to characters' bodies.  However, I can tell some of you can too hung up on the breasts.  For example, Kidd_Long_Sketch_by_OhioErieCanalGirl.jpg (most of her work, even).  Does anybody here remember the optical illusion where you see a diagonal being interrupted by a square/rectangle, you try to guess which line is the real continuance of that first diagonal coming from the other side of the box?  This illusion applies to when you are drawing the contour of a body part (such as a breast) , and you must draw the contour 'continuing' from their undershirt to their coat/vest/whatever.  If clothing is not skin-tight, i.e., it hangs on you like most clothes does, then contour lines are not continuous at the borders.

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Re: Fanart update & Prerelease tidbit
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2006, 05:09:41 pm »
Zeality actively seeks out and collects fanart. If you have issues with what gets on the site, take it up with him. Honestly, it's harder to keep stuff off of that page.

Also, I suggest a change of tone for your future "positive contributions" to the site. You're much too damning and negative without any warrant. And no, being able to do what amounts to an automated histogram/levels adjustment isn't some amazing talent.

You'd be surprised how much more open people are to learning something when you:

A. Keep a positive tone.

B. Remember to be courteous.

and...

C. Show them.



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Re: Fanart update & Prerelease tidbit
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2006, 07:04:20 pm »
It's that way with everything. Crimson Echoes, if it gets made, will not be a new Chrono Trigger, because we did not major in video game design or have natural talents in scenario writing and story planning. Most fanfiction sucks because these people aren't hardened writers, meaning a lot of fiction ends up as pure dialogue with hardly any decscriptive imagery. Same can be said for fanart.

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Re: Fanart update & Prerelease tidbit
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2006, 08:35:56 pm »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2006, 07:14:02 am by mondragon369 »

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Re: Fanart update & Prerelease tidbit
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2006, 12:41:10 am »
With that all said, I'll point out that I did, in fact, provide positive advice and did compliment two specific drawings/artists.

Check out what I mean by spicing up some faded scanned sketches.  When I submit a picture to imageshack.us, I add all the code they give me to a .ini file I use to index it all. Yes, .ini.  I use the freeware Notepadd++, and when it views/edits an .ini, it creates nice folding/opening notes everytime you enter [...] and hit enter. Anyhow, here's the codes to the autofixed kid25ey.

[Kidd fanart portrait excellent]
   *Thumnbnail for Websites   {   <a href="http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kid25ey6cg.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3141/kid25ey6cg.th.jpg" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>   }
   *Thumbnail for Forums (1)   {      }
   *Thumbnail for Forums (2)   {   [img=http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3141/kid25ey6cg.th.jpg]http://   }
   *Hotlink for Forums (1)   {      }
   *Hotlink for Forums (2)   {   [img=http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3141/kid25ey6cg.jpg]   }
   *Hotlink for Websites   {   <a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3141/kid25ey6cg.jpg" border="0" width="385" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a>   }
   *Show to Friends   {   http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kid25ey6cg.jpg   }
   *Direct URL   {   http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3141/kid25ey6cg.jpg   }

See the difference?  I bet this is more like (if no better than) what the drawing looked like before it went into the scanner.  So you see, I really do think some of the fanart there is great. :P

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Re: Fanart update & Prerelease tidbit
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2006, 01:01:10 am »
Curious; what book did you scan that from?

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Re: Fanart update & Prerelease tidbit
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2006, 01:51:15 am »
I know what you said was good advice, but your tone would keep anyone who didn't already know it from seeing that too. Giving a few compliments is no excuse for being an ass.

Also, you forgot to post a link to the before image. I thought you were batshit crazy until I Google'd "kid25ey" and found the image you kept referring to. Adding all that nonsense about using Notepadd++ (real men use Emacs BTW) only distracted from your point, as did the fact that HTML isn't allowed on the forum. However, not including the before image just made it confusing. You might as well have not posted.

And as for your example, congratulations, you clipped the shadow detail, blew out the reds, and failed to fix the color cast all in one fell swoop.



But not only is this all horribly subjective, you can't even be sure if what I see is what you see, all because of slight variations in our monitors, and much bigger variations in our gamma settings. Things are much lighter on a Mac, for example.

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Re: Fanart update & Prerelease tidbit
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2006, 04:38:04 am »
Taking fan art for sucky drawings is one thing, but why are you taking Nobuteru Yuki's official art for fan art? Either you're belittling him, or your "fan" art collection is really unorganized.