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Re: Moon Discrepancy
« Reply #75 on: August 20, 2006, 11:34:58 am »
Harle's creation still represents the CC. 6 elements went into making her. 6 elements are what make up the Chrono Cross.
Nope. What makes up the Chrono Cross is the fusion of 2 versions of a Dragon Tear from 2 split dimensions. 6 Elements coming together don't necessarily make up a Chrono Cross, this is evidenced by the Time Devourer Dragon God having all 6 innate colors but not all 6 at the same time.

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Re: Moon Discrepancy
« Reply #76 on: August 21, 2006, 06:39:09 pm »
The Chrono Cross is said to be a Rainbow Element-combined of all colors. Harle's Level 7 Tech seems rather rainbow colored to me.. And of course, if you combine CT's three elements you get Shadow Magic, which is comparable to Black Innates. And what with the Chrono Cross being the 'Lost Element'...

Back to the merge, though-Harle is never stated to be a part of the Dragon God, nor is she needed as a part of the Dragon God, nor does the Dragon God display her powers. Simply put, she was either destroyed or just left be. She stayed away from Serge from shame of betraying him, and stayed clear of the Dragon God as Serge's encounter with him was inevtiable. She could of went into hiding and the Dragon God wouldn't really care-she did what she had to do. For all he cares, she could deposit the Flame on the summit of Terra Tower and then leap off the edge, crash into the sea, and die.

And then there's the usual explanation of how Harle wasn't there before the split, etc etc.

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Re: Moon Discrepancy
« Reply #77 on: August 22, 2006, 12:19:05 pm »
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The Chrono Cross is said to be a Rainbow Element-combined of all colors. Harle's Level 7 Tech seems rather rainbow colored to me.. And of course, if you combine CT's three elements you get Shadow Magic, which is comparable to Black Innates. And what with the Chrono Cross being the 'Lost Element'...

I agree with everything except the Bold. There's really no evidence for that besides a really ambiguous quote taken severely out of context.

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Back to the merge, though-Harle is never stated to be a part of the Dragon God, nor is she needed as a part of the Dragon God, nor does the Dragon God display her powers. Simply put, she was either destroyed or just left be. She stayed away from Serge from shame of betraying him, and stayed clear of the Dragon God as Serge's encounter with him was inevtiable. She could of went into hiding and the Dragon God wouldn't really care-she did what she had to do. For all he cares, she could deposit the Flame on the summit of Terra Tower and then leap off the edge, crash into the sea, and die.

And then there's the usual explanation of how Harle wasn't there before the split, etc etc.

Harle was called to them and we never see her again. It seems she was merged with them, if not for that little burst of power or to be snots.

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Re: Moon Discrepancy
« Reply #78 on: August 22, 2006, 06:39:44 pm »

Harle was called to them and we never see her again. It seems she was merged with them, if not for that little burst of power or to be snots.

It woudln't of just been a little burst of power. Harle was deadly powerful and her merging was crucial to reunite all the dragons. Harle can't just be a little bit of power that they invested in, because had that been so, a weak Harle would probably have been dead already or something. So the Dragons each put in a conciderable amount of energy to invest in Harle.

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Re: Moon Discrepancy
« Reply #79 on: August 22, 2006, 06:45:32 pm »
None of what we're debating is even mentioned or relevant to the game. This is the kind of stuff I have to wade through when finding meaningful analysis.

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Re: Moon Discrepancy
« Reply #80 on: August 23, 2006, 04:32:06 am »
It is so worth debating over.
We started with the moon. The fact that the moon being braught up, and being somehow irrelevant to the plot from our perspective proves that it is relevant in the game. It is definitely relevent if you want to assess Harle, which I think you will one day be doing character analysis' and also, some think that The Dark Moon came in with Dinopolis, which isn't mentioned in the game to that extend, but many believe as I said, and I think thats "officially" stated on the Chronopedium.

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Re: Moon Discrepancy
« Reply #81 on: August 23, 2006, 11:06:18 am »
Masato Kato said it came in with Dinopolis.

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Re: Moon Discrepancy
« Reply #82 on: August 23, 2006, 05:06:43 pm »
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As a result of the time clash, the dimensions split. The point in
time where Chronopolis and Dinopolis was hurled to, another moon came in
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"The point in time where Chronopolis and Dinopolis were hurled to, another moon came into existence." That quote is to ambiguous to take into account. It doesn't state it came with Dinopolis. It's saying that where the two cities landed (the era probably) another moon came into existance, not a moon from the Reptite Dimension. Or it's his engrish.

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Re: Moon Discrepancy
« Reply #83 on: August 23, 2006, 09:12:54 pm »
If it didn't come with Dinopolis, it came with Chronopolis, and we know this not to be the case.

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Re: Moon Discrepancy
« Reply #84 on: May 03, 2007, 11:34:49 pm »
None of what we're debating is even mentioned or relevant to the game. This is the kind of stuff I have to wade through when finding meaningful analysis.

I take it back. The idea of a Chrono Cross Innate is pretty awesome. Pretty awesome like the PROTAGONIST FOR A NEW CHRONO GAME. That would be inconceivably cool.

I have fallen in love with this idea. It'd have to be a female protagonist for ultimate effect, and one unlike Schala or Kid (weak-willed philosopher versus passion of youth hardass).

But other than that, yeah, this topic was about symbolical speculation mostly. Ultimania needs to be retranslated. I always thought bubblebobby2000 meant that his native language was Japanese when he claimed English as his second, but it's not the case.
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