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Re: Why you should exercise.
« Reply #45 on: September 30, 2006, 01:53:41 am »
Well, yeah, I was basically trying to say that fat people overeating is extra bad because, well, being overweight can be really unhealthy and that can be a disturbing sight; someone so obviously disregarding their body (although I routinely abuse my body...but it's ok, we made a pact a long time ago; i abuse it and it takes the abuse w/o question)...of course, the opposite, someone starving themself is similarly disturbing, but a skinny person overeating isn't that bad because they're still skinny...They might eventually get fat doing it and thus make it disturbing, but for the time being, for all we know, their metabolism can take it.

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Re: Why you should exercise.
« Reply #46 on: September 30, 2006, 02:17:02 am »
If I have a prejudice, it comes from a fundamental belief in the science that obesity is "bad." It is the instigating factor in several diseases and risks and makes you twice more likely to die from anything. I do not treat fat people different, or value their character differently. But nothing can stop the intrinsic judgment that "something is wrong here" which comes from knowing what obesity brings. I cannot willfully blind myself or employ some kind of doublethink. I will not automatically look down on a fat person for being fat. But something will click in my mind. Just at the game today, a gaggle of obese high school students sat in front of me. Sure enough, at halftime, they stocked up on nacho, pizza, candy, and soda as if the world would end. This is voluntary obesity, and the remedy is education. They may behave different if they were empowered with the knowledge of nutrition and exercise. The fact that the fitness industry and fitness buffs have turned exercise into an arrogant, circular crapshoot doesn't help. If it were not for Bruce Lee's attitude and the hard science of fitness, I'd probably still be doing everything wrong because that's what my friends or accomplices told me about exercise.

Forget yoga. Certain yoga stretches can damage joints. Forget pilates. I can strength train more efficiently. Forget aerobics. I can run and accomplish more. There is so much crap in the fitness world that you have to take a scientific, skeptic approach to it. Don't count on hot tips from friends. Rely on science.

For Star Trek fans, there's a good Ferengi proverb for this: hear everything; believe nothing. Do not make your body fit the form or rigid system established by fitness buffs. Make the form fit your body, and challenge yourself to expand that form.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2006, 02:21:12 am by ZeaLitY »

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Re: Why you should exercise.
« Reply #47 on: September 30, 2006, 04:57:56 am »
Now that's a ZeaLitY worth quoting!

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Re: Why you should exercise.
« Reply #48 on: September 30, 2006, 11:43:04 am »
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What a grotesque display of projected self-loathing.

What a way to miss the goddamned point.

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Your argument is the stereotypical foundation of all anti-fat prejudice. You're lucky the rest of us here don't hold you to your own standard.

So what?  I've already admitted that I haven't been the model of self-control.  You ought to hold me to my own standard, though, because I'm actually taking steps to lose the weight.  And do you know why?  Because unlike the people I'm railing at, I realize that the only one responsible for me being overweight is me.

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Whatever our genes "tell" us to feel is insignificant compared to the power of a rational worldview.

It's not like I'm going around shooting everyone who ain't slim and sexy, since I'd have to start with my own damn self.  Far as I'm concerned, that's as far as a rational worldview goes.  Man only needs freedom of action to live rationally.  Poking fun at disgustingly fat people is hardly compromising that.  Attempting to limit the ability to do such is.  And if someone feels that I'm difficult to look at and wants to poke fun at me (which has never happened, but the possibility exists), that's fine.  It's their right.  It's also my right to not interact with them.  Further, it's my right to continue losing weight.  Finally, if they go out of their way to push the issue, nothing says "get a life" like a few broken bones.

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If you allow yourself to be disgusted by the act of fat people overeating, yet experience a contrary emotion when thin people overeat, then you are abandoning your credibility as a thinking person--which, really, is the major distinction between humans and most other animals.

That doesn't even begin to follow logically.

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So shut the fuck up, fattie. You're fat and have no right to an opinion on this. You don't know what you're talking about anyway, because you're so fat all you can think about is what a loser you are.

You know, I actually wonder if you're the one in denial, what with the way you continually argue against some imaginary anti-fat crusade.  People hardly go out of their way to pick on obese people.  They'd just prefer to avoid them.

Edit: Also, if you'd actually read my damn post instead of doing the knee-jerk PC thing that you're so fond of, you'd notice that I'm exclusively referring to people who are so fat that I actually have difficulty looking at them.  While I am overweight, I am not in any way, shape or form one of those people.
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Re: Why you should exercise.
« Reply #49 on: September 30, 2006, 01:11:34 pm »
I blame lame parents and the fact that society, for whatever fucked up reason, likes to take a proverbial shit on anyone and everyone who's different in any way, thus attributing to an equally fucked up cycle of self- and projected-abuse. It's a wicked world we live in, ain' it?.