Chrono Cross: Innate Colors

[Zenning]

Alright, the manual isn't telling me what I want to know, so I'll ask you guys.

Other than determining the color of their Tech Skills, limiting them to Summons of their own color, and determining their weakness (their opposite innate color), what other facets does a character's innate color determine?

Is a Black Element used by a White Innate character, weaker than if that Black Element was equipped by a non-White Innate character? Is that Black Element strongest when used by a Black Innate character?

Second question: do characters' Tech Skills really have the Innate color, i.e., do they count as an Element, or as a physical attack? Does a characters' regular physical attacks also have their innate color attached? I.e., is a Black Innate character more susceptible to the physical attacks of a White Innate character and vice-versa?

[V_Translanka]

Is a Black Element used by a White Innate character, weaker than if that Black Element was equipped by a non-White Innate character? Is that Black Element strongest when used by a Black Innate character?

Uh, yeah...Isn't that explained in the game? Elements of an Innate's type work best and of the opposite type don't work as well both in using and when used upon (this counts for both attacking and recuperative Elements).

Second question: do characters' Tech Skills really have the Innate color, i.e., do they count as an Element, or as a physical attack?

Techs have Elements, yes...I'm not sure what you mean by 'does it count as a physical attack'...In what regard? As in are they the same as regular attacks? Of course not...

Does a characters' regular physical attacks also have their innate color attached? I.e., is a Black Innate character more susceptible to the physical attacks of a White Innate character and vice-versa?

I don't think so...I think this only occurs when you have a Sigul thing equipped and have an Element used on you...

[Eriol]

Does a characters' regular physical attacks also have their innate color attached? I.e., is a Black Innate character more susceptible to the physical attacks of a White Innate character and vice-versa?

I don't think so...I think this only occurs when you have a Sigul thing equipped and have an Element used on you...

Actually I'm pretty sure they are.  Just look at the difference on the S.S. Invincible part where EVERYTHING is black.  Serge does awesome dmg even with normal melee.  What I usually do (well, just did, as I'm playing through CC for the first time now) is use 5-sta with serge attacking, then TurnWhite on Glenn, then send him in.  If it's two monsters, the fight is done, and if it's three, it can sometimes STILL be done, as I use a white element with Glenn too.

But the attacks are ALWAYS their innate color.  Just look at the "swoosh" effect when they swing their weapon.  Serge's is always white.  Glenn's is ALWAYS green, Leena's is blue, etc.  You may not always notice it, but the "effect" is ALWAYS their innate UNLESS a "Turn(whatever)" is used on them.  As in my example, Glenn's usual green "swoosh" turned white.


Wasn't sure about your first point though.  I always tend to load-up people with their innate color, but it definitely isn't in the manual that your innate affects their casting power (I looked last night for this very thing).  Your vulnerabilities, and summons, and your melee attack, and I figured PROBABLY your element casting as well, but are you SURE?

[ZeaLitY]

My real question is, what is the usefulness of the Pendragon Sigils?

[Zenning]

My real question is, what is the usefulness of the Pendragon Sigils?

Heh, my question, too. The Sigils transfer the innate of an element used on you to your attacks. For example, if an enemy uses a Red Element on you when you have a Sigil equipped, your attacks will earn a Red Innate color.

Of course, why would you want the same Innate of the enemy you're attacking? You don't! So, the Sigils are pretty much worthless, unless of course, there's some sort of strategy to it.

For example, some enemies will counter with a devastating attack if they're hit with an Element or attack with an Innate that is opposite to theirs. So, I guess, it could be useful in instances like that.

[V_Translanka]

Firstly, every Pendragon Sigul works w/different levels of Elements to (presumably) make the attacks more powerful by changing the innate of the attack to that of the Element casted.

It's useful if you use strategy w/it. Basically, if you're facing a Red Innate, cast a Blue Element like Cure on you and blammo, extra firepower (so to speak)...But honestly, you really never need anything like this...I suppose it could be helpful for characters when facing same Innate enemies so that the damage isn't lessened (or normalized?)...but when do you really need so much strategy in CC? Answer: never.