El Nido and Evolution

[Insane]

To my understanding, Serge destoryed FATE, which allowed the El Nidans to esacpe the islands, yes? Surely this causes a paradox other than the Chronopolis Paradox.

It is enveitable that eventually, someone from Chronopolis (An El Nidan) will breed, and this family will progress to the mainlands. The family will continue, and, eventually, a desendant of this person- possibly the person themselves- will board Chronopolis.

This poses a problem. The family will repeat, and evolution will contine from this future person. This family will instantly become perfectly evovled, as evolution will occur indefinately in this time Paradox.

With poses more problems. Eventually, they will become a separte speices, and as such, unable to mate with humans. What happens then? It's a paradox, and it's more dangerous than the FATE Paradox.

[Dark Serge]

Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean? Why would anyone go to Chronopolis? And also, there's a chance Chronopolis is no more when the dimensions unite again.

[Insane]

El Nido is populated by Chronopolis Crew, yes? I'm pretty sure they volenteererd.

[Acacia Sgt]

What do you mean about evolving until they no longer could mate with humans? Even after 65 millions years humans were still humans. Sure, there are differences, but not much on the structure of the body to say they were no longer compatible.

[Boo the Gentleman Caller]

Chronopolis was send from 2400 AD to the far past.  As a result, and to counter-balance Chronopolis, Dinopolis was pulled from the Reptite dimension.  The two factions - Humans (evolved apes) from Chronopolis and Dragonians (evolved Reptites) from Dinopolis fought.

The Humans won, and El Nido was created.  It was set within a mountain range in order to block it in and keep it away from the outside world, effectively sealing it away in an attempt to keep from changing the timeline.  Using FATE to help design and implement everything, the Humans then erased their memory and established themselves on the man made El Nido archipelago.  The Records of Fate were created and placed around the islands, effectively allowing FATE access to each person and helping to control, to a certain extent, their life (in order to avoid changes to the timeline).

Note: I have a theory that the original Humans from Chronopolis performed some sort of genetic manipulation and turned themselves into the demi-Humans we see in Chrono Cross.  That way, they couldn't breed with humans (which we learn is actually possible in some situations - ie mermaid mama and Fargo).  Without breeding with Humans (from outside El Nido), it would only further guarantee that the timeline couldn't be changed.  Of course, this theory isn't perfect.

Eventually, around 600 AD-ish, outside Humans finally reached El Nido and settled in.

Note: Thus all the humans who live in El Nido are actually from outside El Nido are outside settlers, according to my theory as stated above.  Also, I wonder if Dalton didn't help Porre gain access to El Nido, helping change the timeline and allow Porre to become a world superpower capable of conquering Guardia in 1005 AD.

[Thought]

The family will repeat, and evolution will contine from this future person. This family will instantly become perfectly evovled, as evolution will occur indefinately in this time Paradox.

"Perfectly evolved" means best suited to a given environment. Evolution is a process, not a set end goal. Without environmental pressure, at best the family line will just develop a larger-than-normal amount of genetic mutations. These will be limited, however, as without an environmental pressure they will not be selected for or against. Too drastic of mutations and the child couldn't survive or mate with others, thus ending that line. The end result would not be a "perfectly evolved" creature, but more likely a being whose decedents might be able to better adjust to a changing environment.

Perhaps eventually resulting in beings closer to the planet than normal humans. These creatures wouldn't be fully human, more... "demi" human in nature.

[chrono eric]

After the end of the game, Chronopolis presumably no longer exists...

But even if a scenario such as what you have outlined occurred before the end of the game in Home World, it wouldn't be possible for any new people to leave Chronopolis in the past of Home World because the timeline clearly doesn't extend before 1010 A.D., or it is static and a shared history with Another World's past.

[Boo the Gentleman Caller]

You know, I never thought that the Ideal Timeline may be one without Chronopolis...  But then, with no Chronopolis, no El Nido...

[Shadow D. Darkman]

Maybe some time between 1010 AD (when the dimensions split) and 1020 AD (when the dimensions reunited), Chronopolis and everything related to it that was in the Sea of Eden vanished, and then Serge was dumped on Opassa Beach after fighting the Time Devourer.

[chrono eric]

You know, I never thought that the Ideal Timeline may be one without Chronopolis...  But then, with no Chronopolis, no El Nido...

What? The creation of the El Nido Islands would be preserved because of TTI. Chronopolis would not be founded in the future because when Belthesar arrives there (likewise the result of TTI) he would not find that Schala would be bound to the Time Devourer and he would not initiate project Kid. Because it's unlikely that Chronopolis never in fact time travelled (as evidenced by the fact that FATE was concerned about past events affecting Chronopolis' existence), Chronopolis would not appear in the past. Only the boundary of the Sea of Eden behaves like a Gate. Unless there's something I'm missing here.

Maybe some time between 1010 AD (when the dimensions split) and 1020 AD (when the dimensions reunited), Chronopolis and everything related to it that was in the Sea of Eden vanished, and then Serge was dumped on Opassa Beach after fighting the Time Devourer

Actually, I think that time would have to be "restarted" from 1010 AD at the point of the original dimensional split for a reunification to even make logical sense. I have an alternative (and I think much simpler) theory about the ending of Chrono Cross that I posted a thread on, but unfortunately it's gone unnoticed and undebated:

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php?topic=6439.0

[Shadow D. Darkman]

Oh, I noticed that. I didn't have anything to say there. That's why I didn't post.