Author Topic: Esmeld, & Dario, & Zorander; Oh My!  (Read 1606 times)

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Esmeld, & Dario, & Zorander; Oh My!
« on: August 25, 2011, 01:22:09 pm »
With nothing to do in my spare time I tried searching for pictures of RD Goblins, if only to draw Pollon from Radical Dreamers, and came across something interesting.

Remember Esmeld, the real scenario's Goblin Commander? Three things struck me most about him:

1) He was docile and didn't attack the Radical Dreamers; rather, he was friendly towards them.
2) He made Serge promise to avenge the previous owner of the Manor by destroying Lynx.
3) He was in love with Riddel (and she loved him too).

Okay, before calling me a racist and stating that inter-species relationships is common in a fantasy world (no matter how ugly Shrek looks), notice the patterns in CC and RD: Riddel is almost always involved in a complex relationship with Dario (akin to various tragic love-stories) in which the latter almost always perishes. Another pattern is Dario and Glenn's relevance to Cyrus and Glenn in CT. Just to put the info on the table, in RD it is usually Zorander who wields the Einlanzer and perishes in the coup, while in CC it is Dario wielding the Einlanzer. If Zorander and Dario are indeed the same person, then we could always call him "Dario Zorander" (Zorander being his last name), and his brother as "Glenn Zorander". Regardless, Zorander is an awesome name!

And then I see this:

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Esmeld has a bitter hatred, yet hopelessly faithful loyalty to the owner of Viper Manor. His hatred stems from Lynx murdering Riddel's father, General Viper. Prior to the events of Radical Dreamers, Esmeld and Riddel were in love. Lynx's interception of the Manor forced the lovebirds apart and Esmeld laments the event. After usurping the Manor, Lynx transforms Esmeld into a Goblin, strongly hinting that he is Dario from Chrono Cross.

Though radical, that is actually a fair and logical assumption. It may have been that Dario / Zorander and Esmeld are actually the same person, and (taking cues from Kato's plotting patterns, as we observed from the battle between Cyrus/Glenn and Magus) when the Coup was performed it was Lynx vs Zorander duking it out, until the Einlanzer was lost (much in the way Masamune was) and Zorander faced death; but lo, here comes Riddel crying not to kill her lover lest she kills herself, and Lynx pulled his inner-Magus and transformed Zorander into a Goblin (as Magus killed Cyrus and turned Glenn into a frog).

Of course, these are merely assumptions, but they're fascinating assumptions. I think I will explore this theory further in fanfictions and fanart.  :D I have a feeling there's something between Pollon and Esmeld.

Oh, and if my theory is correct, then Pollon may have actually been the mastermind behind the Coup.
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Re: Esmeld, & Dario, & Zorander; Oh My!
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2011, 01:27:17 pm »
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3) He was in love with Riddel (and she loved him too).
Guess you didn't read utunnels' translation notes that the original said Viper and Riddel were kind to him, not that he was "involved" with Riddel.

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Re: Esmeld, & Dario, & Zorander; Oh My!
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2011, 01:54:31 pm »
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3) He was in love with Riddel (and she loved him too).
Guess you didn't read utunnels' translation notes that the original said Viper and Riddel were kind to him, not that he was "involved" with Riddel.
Ahahahahaha....  :roll: crap, I didn't know that... Thanks for the input. Where can I find those notes? (I'll also update Esmeld's page with that).

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Re: Esmeld, & Dario, & Zorander; Oh My!
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2011, 09:32:43 pm »
That isn't impossible you know since he never mentioned 'he didn't'.
But Esmeld doesn't look like Dario in every aspect. He's the old book worm type.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Radical_Dreamers_Translation_Differences.html#Esmeld


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Re: Esmeld, & Dario, & Zorander; Oh My!
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2011, 09:50:40 am »
Ah, utunnels, is the "Lynx transforming Esmeld into a Goblin" bit also in the original Japanese?

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Re: Esmeld, & Dario, & Zorander; Oh My!
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2011, 11:28:39 am »
No, as far as I can recall.