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Time Eggs and Ham
« on: November 20, 2012, 03:45:22 pm »
A coworker of mine agreed to play Chrono Trigger after my glowing recommendation, several years ago now.  Weeks, months, and years have passed and he still hasn't played it. 

Question: Has anyone else had trouble getting someone to commit the few hours needed to get involved and take away a positive experience? (And have they ever been successful in the end?)

Follow up question: Does anyone else like to discuss the lore or try telling people about the overarching story of the series, but can't find anyone to talk to about it?  (I mean the forums here are usually pretty good, but there's something about a real time discussion).

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Re: Time Eggs and Ham
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2012, 07:03:26 pm »
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Re: Time Eggs and Ham
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2012, 09:46:08 pm »
I tried getting my brother to play. He wasn't too interested at first. Stayed that way until he discovered he could play it on his phone, giving him something to do between classes. Now it's one of his favorites. On the other hand, I let a friend borrow Cross after having played Trigger (at least, I think he'd played Trigger first). Still hasn't given it back... Every situation is different.

And being a huge fan, of course I enjoy talking about the games. Few people to talk to about it in real life, however.

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Re: Time Eggs and Ham
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2012, 09:58:17 pm »
There are things we feel want to do sometimes, but never found a motivation.
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Re: Time Eggs and Ham
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2012, 11:54:00 am »
Yeah, I've gotten people to start playing but you can't force someone to hold interest, and nobody I've ever recommended Trigger to has finished it. As a result, or perhaps just coincidentally, there are zero people I can talk to about it IRL. That's why I'm here almost every day haha.
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Re: Time Eggs and Ham
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2012, 12:35:13 pm »
Yeah, I've gotten people to start playing but you can't force someone to hold interest, and nobody I've ever recommended Trigger to has finished it. As a result, or perhaps just coincidentally, there are zero people I can talk to about it IRL. That's why I'm here almost every day haha.
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Re: Time Eggs and Ham
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2012, 02:33:51 pm »
Since I'm more of a storyteller, I've a way of getting people interested. XD*

One of the several ways I manage to recommend stories and games to people is by building their anticipation. That, I do it by holding their emotions generously and taking it for a magical adventure that inspires them. Basically, I become over-zealous, put on a hat, stand on a table in the middle of the crowd, going all, "Let me tell you a story about this one 17 years old lad who defied time itself." My over-dramatic references tend to get people interested, then I provide snippets and excerpts, entertaining them. That's when I tell them, "I loved the story, and it's my favourite till now; you should really try it too! You'll be in the ride of your lifetime."

But as Bekkler says, you can't force people to play. Even my brother and best friend, who absolutely loved the multi-arc story and concepts I demonstrated, have seldom played an RPG at all (unless they are MMORPG) so it would have been an immensely difficult task persuading them (even though they are big fans of Toriyama fiction and art). My brother took one look at Chrono Trigger and hated the graphics because they reminded him of the old '80s games, and he said, "Why would I play this when I could play Devil May Cry and have fun?"

Think: overstimulation. When you have something incredibly awesome already, why would you play something that seems lesser in quality on the surface (unless you're a very curious fellow, like me)? Even when you take CT on Phones (like Android or iPhone), compare that with other (free) games such as Zenonia, Destinia, etc. and you'll see it competing weakly against its rivals -- both in graphics and price. Now, CT undoubtedly has the best story, but there are other factors it seems to lose in (even though it's still very much fun... for us).


* And I'm not lying there. In my city/state, nearly nobody new about media (novels, series, movies, etc.) such as Doctor Who, Ghost in the Shell, Sherlock, Baccano, Arsene Lupin, Chrono Trigger, etc. It was only when I began "storytelling" my way into groups of friends that they actually became addicted to my tastes. These days, some of my good friends just can't wait for the next episode of Doctor Who and Sherlock! What can I say, I'm always a pioneer; when Tushantin tries something, it'll undoubtedly become a trend.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2012, 02:39:28 pm by tushantin »

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Re: Time Eggs and Ham
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2012, 09:22:23 pm »
Quote from: tushantin
overstimulation. When you have something incredibly awesome already, why would you play something that seems lesser in quality on the surface (unless you're a very curious fellow, like me)?
Now I'm wondering why old generations usually show less or no interests towards new culture, and vise versa. Like I'll never understand why people listen to Chinese opera.
Perhaps it is not just a matter of overstimulation, perhaps people tend to cling to stuff they grow up with. I know some people as old as me who retain great interests towards old school arcade games. Some of them complain children nowadays play MMO and don't like 2D games, some of them complain video games nowadays are just too shallow in content. But I know it is not completely true, they are just too lazy to make changes, like me.

BTW, if I don't feel want to play RPG, that means I don't have time, not because I can stand its quality. XD