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The happy ending: hearts desire, or simple ending?
« on: February 18, 2008, 08:12:56 pm »
First of all, mind out of the gutters people, I'm talking about a story ending, not special massages.
but story wise, what do you think when an author/director/ whatever, gives a story a happy ending?

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Re: The happy ending: hearts desire, or simple ending?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2008, 08:35:35 pm »
It all depends if said ending is canon or consistent with the story and if it is not just the topping to to an already washy story. Otherwise, if it is a story of conflict, I quite enjoy enjoy an ending, happy or otherwise, where the ends justify the means.


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Re: The happy ending: hearts desire, or simple ending?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2008, 08:39:15 pm »
I personally feel that it is more challenging to write an inspiring, happy ending following believable, almost-conceded struggle than it is to cop out with a bunch of darkness or misfortune. Some people feel that they have to have things go wrong at the end, because that's how it happens in the real world...but the point should be that if you struggle and believe in yourself, you can change the outcome and trump the convention of the real world and achieve a glorious, inspiring victory. That's what inspires.

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Re: The happy ending: hearts desire, or simple ending?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2008, 09:17:55 pm »
Too many variables to give a simple, unilateral answer. By happy ending, I suppose I mean the culmination of an ending in which the parties sympathised with triumph and live, and any antagonists are defeated.

First, there's the target audience: is it aimed at children, teens, adults? etc. It is to many more forgivable for a Disney film to have a contrived happy ending than an 'adult' (no, not in that sense) novel.

That's a whole point of its own: a happy ending can seem contrived, out of place, a deus ex machina, but need not be. A fitting, 'happy' ending that has been built towards for a significant part of the story can leave the experiencer satisfied, and the story fulfilled.

Similarly, introducing a happy ending at the expense of closure can result in dissatisfaction, e.g. if exploring the fate of an antagonist is neglected in favour of a simple happy ending.

In the context of a less realistically grounded story, seemingly cheap twists in it can seem more tolerable and acceptable, as they may not break its continuity. In a more realistic story, using an unlikely, unrealistic or plain impossible event to force a happy ending may overstep the boundaries of passable endings.

The expectations of one when starting to have a story told can also influence one's sentiment towards its ending; if one is looking for a quick, shallow story to pass some time, a simplistic, happy ending may not raise objection. On the other hand, if one is looking for a deep, lengthy story for mental stimulation, it would probably be disappointing, perhaps even annoying to finish it without the desired complexity, open-endedness, thought-provoking, open to interpretation kind of ending one may have been seeking.

But even within the course of the story unfolding, one's mood, attention, patience and the like can change; one could start reading a more intellectually-oriented, discussible fable hoping to further one's mind, but part way through become bored or disillusioned.

Of course, it doesn't matter how contrived or poor an ending is if its receiver doesn't realise. To use my earlier example, a simple-minded child could watch a Disney film and be delighted with its ending, while more analytical folks may be disgruntled by it.

As I now see ZeaLitY touched upon, one's own general temperament can affect how much one enjoys a happy ending. An archetypal emo may hate (although, if they hated everything anyway, I suppose this is redundant) an arguably mawkish, 'feel-good' love story with an ending consistent with the rest of it on principle, whereas an old-timer may regale in it. Entire genres and types of endings or plot devices may be written off by people without consideration.

So to wrap it up, one's expectations, temperament, perspective, mood and standards can affect if one enjoys a happy ending, as well as its continuity (or lack thereof) and target audience.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2008, 09:26:03 pm by MsBlack »

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Re: The happy ending: hearts desire, or simple ending?
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2008, 02:03:57 am »
As long as it's not about some bullshit Disney morals, I'm fine with it. Sometimes I yearn an unhappy ending, while other times I hope to God for a happy one.

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Re: The happy ending: hearts desire, or simple ending?
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2008, 04:21:00 am »
I want an ending that follows logically from the story and characters up to that point. Sometimes that's happy, sometimes that isn't, but I generally prefer endings with a bit of hope rather than stories of crushing despair.

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Re: The happy ending: hearts desire, or simple ending?
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2008, 10:23:57 am »
I want an ending that follows logically from the story and characters up to that point.

I agree.

if you struggle and believe in yourself, you can change the outcome and trump the convention of the real world and achieve a glorious, inspiring victory.

It doesn't and can't always happen like that. 

Now, if the story is about a special massage palour, then a happy ending is probably prefered.