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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2006, 03:05:46 am »
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A purple cat prolly isn't that special in a floating continent of magical blue-haired people that can probably shoot purple cats out of their hands.


Nah, Alfador is portrayed to be special. Not only has Alfador built such a close connection with Janus that he can even destinguish him and Magus, not to mention surviving a fall, but the fact that he is purple and we see no other cats like him kind of shows that he may be one of  a kind, but definetely not the entity.

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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2006, 04:03:56 am »
Sometimes a cigar, is just a cigar.

Janus is a social introvert. Anti-social and opens up to very few things. Shala being one. Alfador is another. There isn't some kind of special "soul bond" between alfador and Janus/Magus. It's an "ability" that is often attributed to pets as being able to know who a person is despite a disguise. In the Oddessey Oddesseus' dog knew it was him despite having been disguised by a god. It's just something that is common for loved pets to do.

As for the alfador is somehow special because it's the only purple cat in the game, that I think is looking into things too much. I mean plenty of people have odd hair color (especially in Zeal), and somethings only show up once or twice but that doesn't mean that they aren't commonplace.

If anything, what Alfador does is show that he has (or at least had) compassion for something other than himself or Schala, that there is someone gentle and kind enough to care for a little cat. Also the fact that Alfador doesn't seem scared by Magus seems to imply that he still has those parts in him, but frankly that's likely looking into it too much.

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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2006, 07:36:49 pm »
Jossi pretty much said everything I was going to say. As for surviving the fall: So? A few others did. Alfador lucked out like everyone else.

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« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2006, 10:27:56 pm »
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A purple cat prolly isn't that special in a floating continent of magical blue-haired people that can probably shoot purple cats out of their hands.


Nah, Alfador is portrayed to be special. Not only has Alfador built such a close connection with Janus that he can even destinguish him and Magus, not to mention surviving a fall, but the fact that he is purple and we see no other cats like him kind of shows that he may be one of  a kind, but definetely not the entity.

You know I am going with Zaperking with this.  He is not the entity, but there is something about him.  He shows Magus/Janus personality, selective and arrogant.  The purple may have been to symbolically resemble the shadow magic of Magus.  I mean why not kill him?  If he is absolutely normal, then he will die like a normal cat.  Why make him a survivor and not some random guy?

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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2006, 10:32:10 pm »
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A purple cat prolly isn't that special in a floating continent of magical blue-haired people that can probably shoot purple cats out of their hands.


Nah, Alfador is portrayed to be special. Not only has Alfador built such a close connection with Janus that he can even destinguish him and Magus, not to mention surviving a fall, but the fact that he is purple and we see no other cats like him kind of shows that he may be one of  a kind, but definetely not the entity.

You know I am going with Zaperking with this.  He is not the entity, but there is something about him.  He shows Magus/Janus personality, selective and arrogant.  The purple may have been to symbolically resemble the shadow magic of Magus.  I mean why not kill him?  If he is absolutely normal, then he will die like a normal cat.  Why make him a survivor and not some random guy?


There were plenty of absolutly normal survivors. Heck, it could simply be that the makers wanted to keep the kitty alive because they thought it was cute. And besides, if the cat was actually special, then well... maybe the cat should have actually done something special. Right now all evidence used to portray that cat as special is passive or something really not unique at all.

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« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2006, 04:39:47 am »
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A purple cat prolly isn't that special in a floating continent of magical blue-haired people that can probably shoot purple cats out of their hands.


Nah, Alfador is portrayed to be special. Not only has Alfador built such a close connection with Janus that he can even destinguish him and Magus, not to mention surviving a fall, but the fact that he is purple and we see no other cats like him kind of shows that he may be one of  a kind, but definetely not the entity.

You know I am going with Zaperking with this.  He is not the entity, but there is something about him.  He shows Magus/Janus personality, selective and arrogant.  The purple may have been to symbolically resemble the shadow magic of Magus.  I mean why not kill him?  If he is absolutely normal, then he will die like a normal cat.  Why make him a survivor and not some random guy?

Alfador is just part of the developers joke with cats. I mean, do you really think that Crono's cat, the Millenial Fair cat, the cat that pops out of nowhere in Tyrano's Lair to hit a button, and the cat that kill Ozzie, are all special cats? It's just a recurrent joke.

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« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2006, 07:34:01 am »
Cats are cats. They aren't alluded to being anything more ever. Just...there. Somehow, Alfador got lucky enough to survive the insane fall toward the ground, just like the number of people who survived. And wow, it's truly amazing that he's not stupid enough to forget his master. I mean, not all animals are capable of that!

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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2006, 08:03:07 am »
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A purple cat prolly isn't that special in a floating continent of magical blue-haired people that can probably shoot purple cats out of their hands.


Nah, Alfador is portrayed to be special. Not only has Alfador built such a close connection with Janus that he can even destinguish him and Magus, not to mention surviving a fall, but the fact that he is purple and we see no other cats like him kind of shows that he may be one of  a kind, but definetely not the entity.

You know I am going with Zaperking with this.  He is not the entity, but there is something about him.  He shows Magus/Janus personality, selective and arrogant.  The purple may have been to symbolically resemble the shadow magic of Magus.  I mean why not kill him?  If he is absolutely normal, then he will die like a normal cat.  Why make him a survivor and not some random guy?

Alfador is just part of the developers joke with cats. I mean, do you really think that Crono's cat, the Millenial Fair cat, the cat that pops out of nowhere in Tyrano's Lair to hit a button, and the cat that kill Ozzie, are all special cats? It's just a recurrent joke.


Alfador has a connection to Magus though, and isn't one of those comic relief like cats.

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« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2006, 08:35:10 am »
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Alfador has a connection to Magus though, and isn't one of those comic relief like cats.


Your right. Alfador IS special, though no one seems to realize it. If the Entity needs to watch the events that is happening, especially in an event-filled place such as Zeal, he needs to go undercover as something in the least inconspicuous way! So he chooses to go as a cat that is owned by the Royal Family.

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« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2006, 10:20:56 am »
Alfador is a Symbol, he is showing Janus/Magus personality. No one(except Schale) understands him, but he has his cat, his only friend. Such a relationship is something special, but not in the way that Alfador is the entity. He did die a way before 1999(or, as some may believe, he was ported to 1000 A.D.), so reliving the past or something can't be.

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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2006, 03:44:29 pm »
I think the only reason they kept Alfador alive is so that he could reproduce, allowing you to get a purple cat in the "feed the cat" side quest. And yea, Alfador is symbolic of Janus and all that crap, but so what? If you want to see a better demonstration of Janus/Magus' soft side, look at Schala and his entire drive to find and save her.

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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2006, 05:40:26 pm »
Well, him surviving maybe shows that Janus'/Magus' will to search for Schala is even stronger than saving(or taking with him) Alfador. During his time in the Middle Ages, he just lived for revenge, after that, saving Schala, and maybe after that, Alfador, but I dont think he cares much about Álfador anymore.

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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2006, 08:45:04 pm »
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Well, him surviving maybe shows that Janus'/Magus' will to search for Schala is even stronger than saving(or taking with him) Alfador. During his time in the Middle Ages, he just lived for revenge, after that, saving Schala, and maybe after that, Alfador, but I dont think he cares much about Álfador anymore.


Ofcourse Magus doesn't care about Alfador anymore. He made it very clear that he was a different person back then. Now he doesn't want any friends at all.

BTW, his soft side isn't that visible with Schala, since he blew his chance. His chance to save Schala once and for all was blown with him thinking he could take down Lavos, which was his first priority.

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« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2006, 09:55:38 pm »
Magus viewed softness as weak after what happened in his childhood... I mean being raised by Ozzie, and yet still actually having his goal of avenging what happened in 12000 BC is impressive. Its amazing that he did not just vent out his anger and make his priority to destroy humans, even though that was the way Ozzie raised him.  He just simply doesnt want to become attached to something and lose it once again.