Reconciling the Frozen Flame as Dreamstone

[Zaperking]

@ Aura, maybe she didn't say "HATE" in the japanese version

As for Lavos' energy. He of course has some of his own, but the rest is the planets, and it's not recycled into his energy. It's more like it's catystalled into him, so that his energy is the living energy of the planet. You wonder why all the character say what he has all the DNA, spirtual energy that's ever existed etc when they fight him?

If it was recycled, it'd just be his "a trenourmous amount of energy"

[SilentMartyr]

But how can hate the word exist before hate the concept???

And what does Robo being smarter have to do with anything?

What??? Just...No! Lavos is an alien. Therefore any energy that comes from Lavos is alien energy that is not natural to the planet.

Lavos steals energy from the planet for his own devices. Thusly, Lavos' energy is the planet's. PWNED.

Minus the energy Lavos used to you know, live in space and burrow into the planet.   PWNED indeed.

[AuraTwilight]

But the planet's energy is recycled into Lavos' own energy. Thus, it is no longer the planet's energy, but Lavos'. So it is alien energy now.

But the energy he steals was from the planet. Thusly, no matter what form it's converted in, it's not "alien" because it's not foreign. And it's the property of the Planet's regardless.

Minus the energy Lavos used to you know, live in space and burrow into the planet. PWNED indeed.

Did I say that he didn't have any energy of his own? No.

[Chrono'99]

Minus the energy Lavos used to you know, live in space and burrow into the planet. PWNED indeed.

Did I say that he didn't have any energy of his own? No.

You were quoting a post from SilentMartyr talking about "any energy that comes from Lavos":

What??? Just...No! Lavos is an alien. Therefore any energy that comes from Lavos is alien energy that is not natural to the planet.

Lavos steals energy from the planet for his own devices. Thusly, Lavos' energy is the planet's. PWNED.

Thus anybody with half a brain would assume that you were also speaking about "any energy that comes from Lavos", especially since you're supposed to have "pwned" this quote about any energy that comes from Lavos.

[Burning Zeppelin]

Well obviously the energy was the Planets, but becomes his after he you know...like...takes it, and uses it as his own. Just like how we, when we eat plants and animals say that this is the plants/animals energy, we say its our own. If I'm sounding a bit lost, I kinda am.

[Zaperking]

We eat to have chemical energy that lets us move. He drains the Earths energy to gain power, and takes the DNA so that he can become an ultimate evolution.

Any of his power is the planets, but channelled in a different way.

[SilentMartyr]

Thanks C'99

So you are trying to tell me Lavos had NO energy at all before he reached the planet?

[Kazuki]

Thanks C'99

So you are trying to tell me Lavos had NO energy at all before he reached the planet?

How is that possible? Unless Lavos was somehow forcibly, "launched," to the planet, then how would he have gotten there?

(Backing up your point.)

[Zaperking]

Thanks C'99

So you are trying to tell me Lavos had NO energy at all before he reached the planet?

Read my other post carefully. I said he probably has his own power, but the only way that he became meeeega powerful ultimate uber mofo at the end of the game was because he drained all the planets power, used it as his own and harnessed the DNA of everything to ultimate himself.

[AuraTwilight]

It could be possible that the energy Lavos was born with was planetary energy he inherited from his father, and when he came to Earth, he possibly used the last of his energy and began absorbing it. (Just like animals eat when they're hungry.) Maybe the entire Lavoid species powers itself with the planets they're born on and invade?

[SilentMartyr]

Thanks C'99

So you are trying to tell me Lavos had NO energy at all before he reached the planet?

Read my other post carefully. I said he probably has his own power, but the only way that he became meeeega powerful ultimate uber mofo at the end of the game was because he drained all the planets power, used it as his own and harnessed the DNA of everything to ultimate himself.

We eat to have chemical energy that lets us move. He drains the Earths energy to gain power, and takes the DNA so that he can become an ultimate evolution.

Any of his power is the planets, but channelled in a different way.

That was the post I was responding to. You clearly state Lavos has no power besides the planets.

[Zaperking]

WELLLLLLL MYYYYYYYYYYY MISTAKE! Whatever, I obviousally ment that he had enough power to get there, obviousally he took the planets power which he kind of stored to channal it, possibly.

[AuraTwilight]

Kind've like how a seed has enough food to grow and such, but once it matures, it has to make the rest of it's food.

[Exodus]

This theory doesn't make any sense.

For one, we need proof that Lavoids absorb minerals. Secondly, we need proof that dreamstone is naturally occurring on other planets.

Therefore, until such proof is made available, perhaps in the next Chrono game, the theory has no basis.

You can believe what you will; it doesn't change the fact that there is nothing to back it up.