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« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2006, 04:18:59 pm »
You know Cyrus's sprite probably dissapeared because thats what happens to sprites in Trigger when they die. Simple as that.

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« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2006, 02:10:57 am »
With the quote "Here lies the fool who challenged Magus", couldn't it be different in the Japanese version? For all we know, it may be something like "Here lies Cyrus, the hero who stupidly chose to challange Magus" etc.?

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« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2006, 08:27:59 am »
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With the quote "Here lies the fool who challenged Magus", couldn't it be different in the Japanese version? For all we know, it may be something like "Here lies Cyrus, the hero who stupidly chose to challange Magus" etc.?

According to Kwhazit's translations, it's:
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魔王に戦いをいどんだ、おろかな男     サイラス、ここに眠る。 The foolish man who challenged Magus in battle, Cyrus, sleeps here.

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« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2006, 06:22:49 pm »
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With the quote "Here lies the fool who challenged Magus", couldn't it be different in the Japanese version? For all we know, it may be something like "Here lies Cyrus, the hero who stupidly chose to challange Magus" etc.?

According to Kwhazit's translations, it's:
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魔王に戦いをいどんだ、おろかな男     サイラス、ここに眠る。 The foolish man who challenged Magus in battle, Cyrus, sleeps here.


That translation sounds better.

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« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2006, 06:36:08 pm »
Here's some of what I think: It's been pointed out Cyrus body was burnt and disappeared or what-not.  That still does not rule out the fact his armor remained; maybe what little remained of Cyrus was buried.  After all his spirit is nothing but an empty suit of armor.

I'm pretty sure it was indeed Frog who buried him, and of course parallel to the Garai/Radius/Isle of the Damned story in Chrono Cross, the negative/lingering sentiments of Cyrus began to transform the place into a forsaken ruin, infested with evil spirits; both Garai and Cyrus had links to the Masamune, one being killed by it, the other wielding it in life.

Strong evidence would support Cyrus' spirit wrote his own epitaph, perhaps his soul filled with regret and feeling weakness for being unable to defeat Magus, which turned him into the undead evil spirit in 1000 AD's ruins.

Also, the regret only seems to grow when the spirit of Cyrus speaks to Frog later, after recognizing him as Glenn he screams and begins swinging his sword in the air wildly, possibly further regretting that his actions also caused Glenn's transformation into a monster as well.

Moreover, speaking of why the far-removed Northern Ruins, it's possible that Frog would want to keep Cyrus' remains away from Magus/Ozzie who have the power to reanimate the slain as monsters as well.  Imagine how the Guardia army would react to some sort of undead zombie spirit they could recognize as Cyrus?  That would be an even bigger morale killer than Cyrus simply being dead.

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« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2006, 04:54:26 pm »
Well, it can't be Cyrus' negativity that caused the place to be haunted, since Masamune wasn't corrupted at the time.

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« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2006, 07:23:42 pm »
Cyrus's a scary ghost. He doesn't need a Masamune to cause the place to be haunted.

Or I missed something and the Masamune would be responsible for the Ghost Ship's existence in CC...

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« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2006, 12:39:34 am »
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Well, it can't be Cyrus' negativity that caused the place to be haunted, since Masamune wasn't corrupted at the time.


True, although I simply point out the stories are a bit similar, however yeah, Cyrus wouldn't actually need the Masamune to become a tortured soul as he did.  Hah, was I the only one that tried several times to see if I could somehow harm or kill him as a ghost?