Virtual PC for Mac OS X.4 question

[ker-plop]

I want to try the upgrades I've found on this site with my Chrono Trigger emulation, but I'm not sure how to install the Lunar IPS.  I have Virtual PC for my Mac, but it says I need a system to work it... and I'm not sure what to do.  Is there anything I can use to run EXE programs?

[GrayLensman]

I want to try the upgrades I've found on this site with my Chrono Trigger emulation, but I'm not sure how to install the Lunar IPS.  I have Virtual PC for my Mac, but it says I need a system to work it... and I'm not sure what to do.  Is there anything I can use to run EXE programs?

Forget about Lunar IPS.  There are plenty of cross-platform patch utilities you can use on your Mac.  Look here: http://www.zophar.net/utilities/patchutil.html.  I recommend NINJA because it is just a PHP script.

[Mystik3eb]

ZSNES would make alot of people happy by porting to the Mac. And it could potentially be more powerful, or at least potentially look better and have a more user-friendly interface.

But yeah, never give up. I used IPS patchers on my mac years ago. I just don't remember what I used.

[ker-plop]

Forget about Lunar IPS.  There are plenty of cross-platform patch utilities you can use on your Mac.  Look here: http://www.zophar.net/utilities/patchutil.html.  I recommend NINJA because it is just a PHP script.

OK, thanks.  Next question...  What do I do with that when I have it?

[GrayLensman]

Forget about Lunar IPS.  There are plenty of cross-platform patch utilities you can use on your Mac.  Look here: http://www.zophar.net/utilities/patchutil.html.  I recommend NINJA because it is just a PHP script.

OK, thanks.  Next question...  What do I do with that when I have it?

I don't use a Mac, so I can't give you specific instructions.

IPS Patcher for Mac OS X uses a GUI, so it should be easier for you.  I assume you know how to run an executable file.

[Mystik3eb]

Macs don't run .EXEs.

I think I used IPS Patcher, I think that was it...but yeah, it's easy. You load the program, and it asks for the patch and the ROM to be patched. Then it's permanently patched.

[GrayLensman]

Macs don't run .EXEs.

It is a .sit x-stuffit file, not a windows .exe file.  I know what I'm talking about.

And always make backup copies of your roms when patching.

[Ramsus]

I want to try the upgrades I've found on this site with my Chrono Trigger emulation, but I'm not sure how to install the Lunar IPS.  I have Virtual PC for my Mac, but it says I need a system to work it... and I'm not sure what to do.  Is there anything I can use to run EXE programs?

You have to use a Windows Setup CD and install a copy of the OS on a fake Virtual PC drive before you can use it to run applications.

It's slow as hell anyway. Unless you have a fast G5 and plenty of HDD space, I wouldn't recommend it for anything.

ZSNES would make alot of people happy by porting to the Mac. And it could potentially be more powerful, or at least potentially look better and have a more user-friendly interface.

But yeah, never give up. I used IPS patchers on my mac years ago. I just don't remember what I used.

None of the user interface code in ZSNES is system specific, since it has its own system-independent GUI. Anyone porting it is unlikely to rewrite those parts (it'd be hell to do), so porting it to Mac won't magically improve the user interface.

Also, hand-coded Intel assembly is very different from hand-coded PowerPC assembly. The types of optimizations you aim for are different, thus any port of ZSNES's engine would be horribly inferior to anything written from scratch with the PowerPC in mind.

So all of this "potential" you speak of is pretty damned imaginary. Even after Intel-based Macs come out, ZSNES won't be any different, better, or faster once ported to them.

[Mystik3eb]

It's slow as hell anyway. Unless you have a fast G5 and plenty of HDD space, I wouldn't recommend it for anything.

Actually it's not that bad on a decent G4, even, and the HDD space isn't totally necessary, but is a nice bonus. But for the sake of usefulness, Virtual PC doesn't really make itself worth it too much. It'd really be better to just buy a cheap ol' PC.

None of the user interface code in ZSNES is system specific, since it has its own system-independent GUI. Anyone porting it is unlikely to rewrite those parts (it'd be hell to do), so porting it to Mac won't magically improve the user interface.

Also, hand-coded Intel assembly is very different from hand-coded PowerPC assembly. The types of optimizations you aim for are different, thus any port of ZSNES's engine would be horribly inferior to anything written from scratch with the PowerPC in mind.

So all of this "potential" you speak of is pretty damned imaginary. Even after Intel-based Macs come out, ZSNES won't be any different, better, or faster once ported to them.

Well I know that, what I meant to say was that I've seen prettier emulators on OS X than on XP, so it they so desired to change their interface completely, then it could potentially look better. But yeah, it wouldn't be a simple port, I know, it was a poorly placed word.

[saridon]

ZSNES would make alot of people happy by porting to the Mac. And it could potentially be more powerful, or at least potentially look better and have a more user-friendly interface.

But yeah, never give up. I used IPS patchers on my mac years ago. I just don't remember what I used.

pfft ive always used snes9x and when i did try zsnes it sucked (they were both the newest versions at the time)

besides snes9x ive found to be way more convinient and faster...

[Dirtie]

ZSNES is more accurate and is just plain easier to use in most aspects.