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Rate Grobyc on a scale of A (best) to D (worst).

A
5 (22.7%)
B
12 (54.5%)
C
2 (9.1%)
D
3 (13.6%)

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CLOSED - Rate Cross Characters 8: Grobyc
« on: August 12, 2007, 12:20:53 am »
Evaluate Grobyc based on his character design, combat usefulness, and Tilt factor -- which can mean anything, from how much he strikes you as cool to how important he is to the plot.

http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Grobyc.html

« Last Edit: August 13, 2007, 09:24:25 pm by ZeaLitY »

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Re: Rate Cross Characters 8: Grobyc
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2007, 12:26:02 am »
Character design: Grobyc's got a neat style. He's like the blue motif of Porre on steroids, and has enough bells and whistles to make give him a sufficient edge.

Combat: Grobyc edges out even Serge in strength and defense, making him a primarily physical fighter.

Tilt: Grobyc's personality had more room for development. In fact, he was meant to get some but for whatever reason these lines never made it into Cross:

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Luccia:
   No...
   It cannot be...!
   Grobyc!?

Member:
   You know him?
   
Luccia:
   yes... He is a Super Mensch
   on vhom my brother vas vorking
   on vhile I vas in Porre.
   I t'ought it vas destroyed
   when the lab blew up,
   3 years ago...

Grobyc:
   So-you-are-his-sister.
   Grobyc-is-grateful
   to-your-brother.
   He-made-Grobyc-into-this
   superb-fighting-machine.
   
Luccia:
   Dat vas not my brother's
   true intention!

Grobyc:
   That-does-not-matter-now.
   You-will-see-your
   brother-soon.
   Once-Grobyc-is
   through-with-you.

Luccia:
   You are responsible
   for dat explosion,
   are you not!?

Grobyc:
   Silence.
   Die!
   
Luccia:
   Grobyc...
   You saved us...?

Luccia:
   But vhy...?
   Vhy did you kill my
   brotter, yet save us?

Grobyc:
   You-are-mistaken.
   Grobyc-did-not-cause
   that-explosion.
   Grobyc-is-only-alive
   today because-your-brother
   sacrificed-himself-to
   save-Grobyc.

Luccia:
   I... see...
   Dat sounds like something
   my brotter vould do...
   
Luccia:
   I vant you to kom
   to my lab.
   I may be able to
   help you dere.

Grobyc:
   Grobyc-does-not-need
   your-sympathy.

Another opportunity to show a perspective on humanity would have enhanced his character, but competing with 40 others late in the game precludes that. Still, he brings something fresh to the table, and those lines are canon despite not appearing. Since tilt doesn't define everything, the other categories and his interesting representation of AI in the age of 1020 A.D. make him a B character.

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Re: Rate Cross Characters 8: Grobyc
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2007, 12:47:41 am »
Character Design: As Zeality said, he's basically the Porre motif on steroids. He also makes Robo look like a child's toy.

Combat Usefulness: After you lose Harle, he's your best Black element period. He also has an amazingly awesome hair laser technique. Who doesn't love hair lasers?

Tilt: He had a lot of potential for character development that either did not make it in or was wasted a bit. But I like him, though I would render him an important NPC rather than a PC were I redoing Chrono Cross to be more like Trigger when it comes to character focus.

Final Grade: B.

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Re: Rate Cross Characters 8: Grobyc
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2007, 12:50:45 am »
Design: He has a cool look for a cyborg.

Combat: Two words: Lazer Hair. AWESOME!

Tilt: Like Zeality said, he had potential to become a huge part of the storyline. Also Lazer Hair.

Con: I-couldn't-stand-this-kind-of-dialog.

Final Grade: B

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Re: Rate Cross Characters 8: Grobyc
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2007, 01:35:49 pm »
Grobyc: I'm-a-firein-mah-lazor!

did you guys forget his 3rd move? its like the collest in the game, in fact, all his moves rule.
he has some good personallity, in that he knows he cant do anything but fight , kill, and destroy. but think about it, he sounds regretful.
just try to think of what feelings and thoughts are going through his head.

and hes a great fighter too.

i say A.

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Re: Rate Cross Characters 8: Grobyc
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2007, 02:50:04 pm »
Design: Pure awesome. Love the hair, the bandana, and those arm... things. Looks very cool.

Combat: Very powerful, from what I've seen. Didn't use him very much, but I can safely say he's pretty good.

Tilt: Saves your ass in Viper Manor, just plain rules there. After that, nothing much. Gets bonus points for having missing character development.

Final Grade: A

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Re: Rate Cross Characters 8: Grobyc
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2007, 03:25:30 pm »
Design: He's a cool robot. I liked that he stood with one foot slightly off the ground in battle. I thought it was a cool touch, but I couldn't really say why.

Combat: He was a beast. I had him in my party most of the time, once I got him.

Tilt: The accent is obnoxious, and I he seems too advanced for the time, given that over a millenium later, robots still don't look that human.

B.

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Re: Rate Cross Characters 8: Grobyc
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2007, 06:13:31 pm »
he seems too advanced for the time, given that over a millenium later, robots still don't look that human.
hes a cyborg, not a robot, thats why.

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Re: Rate Cross Characters 8: Grobyc
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2007, 06:47:48 pm »
]hes a cyborg, not a robot, thats why.
Irrelevant. If a cyborg can have that kind of technological capability in 1000 A.D., a robot built in the era of 1999 A.D. ought to be at least as technological, and probably more so.

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Re: Rate Cross Characters 8: Grobyc
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2007, 07:12:35 pm »
he seems too advanced for the time, given that over a millenium later, robots still don't look that human.
hes a cyborg, not a robot, thats why.

You are correct. He is actually the result of a greater level of technological knowledge and skill than a robot. This makes him even more out of place.

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Re: Rate Cross Characters 8: Grobyc
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2007, 08:06:45 pm »
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[...]Luccia:
   yes... He is a Super Mensch[...]

This sounds sooooo WWII.