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A few questions about Magus.
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2005, 03:17:17 pm »
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I'm pretty much with Radical_Dreamer on this one...All of that Janus to Magus stuff can be blamed on Ted Woosley...nyuk nyuk...

Although, Radical_Dreamer, I thought that maou meant demon king not wizard king...I had never heard wizard before...


To the first part:  That's entirely possibly, given what he did to FF6.  Meh.

"Ma" is a Japanese root word for things like magic, sorcery, etc.  ("Mahou," for example, is "magical." However, then you get words like "Youma," which is another word for demon/monster/etc.)  I've also seen "Ma" in things related to demons, like youma.  Japanese is kind of hard to translate when it comes to concepts like magic, evil, etc., just because their perception of it is different from ours.  "Ou" is king.  So, both translations are, in fact, acceptable.

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A few questions about Magus.
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2005, 04:24:34 pm »
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Although, Radical_Dreamer, I thought that maou meant demon king not wizard king...I had never heard wizard before...


It's possible I'm entirely wrong. I don't know Japanese, that's just what I remembered from the last time I saw a translation.

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As far as the name of God being lost... not really. There never really was a name, so to speak, and names in those days were... variable. Marduk of the Babylonians had fifty names, ranging from Marduk itself to Bel, that is, Lord. For that matter, the Judeo-Christian God was thus often called Bel, or Baal, as it was spelled by the Caananites (in the region where the Hebrews were), simply denoting 'Lord'. The Hebrews also borrowed the name of the Caananite chief divinity, the bull god El, for their own. Thus my own name, Daniel, which means 'God has vindicated me/God is my judge' - I assume you can spot 'el' at the end. Anyway, as for the true name, or the most holy name... well, is anyone Jewish hereabouts? Because Jews dislike it when anyone speaks or spells it, it is so holy to them (Legend of the Past over at Chronicles got annoyed at me once for it, so I stopped doing it.) Christians don't have a problem with it, but I think it essentially comes from the verb 'to be', basically denoting something/someone that always was and shall be. In the old way it was spelled YHWH (ie. Yahweh... and if there are any Jews on this site that want me to remove this, I'll remove this out of respect), which leads to great difficulties. Mazoritic scholars, attempting to be paralitic, took a name of God that appears side by side to it, Adonai, and put those vowels into YHWH, yielding YAHOWAH, which comes down to us as the totally misspelled Jehovah - apparently it really threw scholars for a loop who couldn't figure out what sort of name that was. Eventually they figured out it wasn't one at all, but just a quirk that the Mazoritic translators put in when they were putting vowels into the previously non-vowel spelling. But to Christians I would say that the true name of our God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, but that's another matter, I suppose.


As a matter of fact, I am Jewish, but I don't think you're being disrespectful. Adonai is the word used in most Jewish prayers. Pretty much all of the blessings I learned started with "Baruch attah Adonai..." or "Blessed are you, Lord our God". My spelling may be off, but the Hebrew and Roman alphabets do not precisely overlap.