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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2005, 11:10:50 pm »
Does the split happen before or after the fire?

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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2005, 12:31:36 am »
The fire being Lucca's house? After.

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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2005, 01:30:19 am »
Yeah.
 Lucca's house was burnt in only one dimension in 1015AD (Or atleast I think it was only one dimension, since the other Kid is on the main land).

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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2005, 02:06:53 pm »
Awesome.  That's what I thought, I just had to make sure of that.

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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2005, 04:38:17 pm »
Actually I don't know, we don't know how old Kid was when her house burnt down, and nothing else gives indication to answer that question. I take back my answer and simply say "we don't know"...unless someone has some proof that says otherwise.

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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2005, 06:55:24 pm »
The fire happened in both timelines, we know that for a fact. So it's safe to assume it happened before the split.

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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2005, 08:06:17 pm »
How do you know it happened in both, though?

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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2005, 02:22:28 am »
It happened in 1015AD. I have no idea why it'd take 5 years after Serge's death for FATE to find out that Lucca did something, unless Belthasar informed it so.

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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2005, 04:48:46 am »
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It happened in 1015AD. I have no idea why it'd take 5 years after Serge's death for FATE to find out that Lucca did something, unless Belthasar informed it so.

The game doesn't state when it happened. It was said to have happened in 1,015 AD only in the Ultimania Guide (you know, the guide that you said was "stupid" in the Frozen Flame/Dreamstone topic).

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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2005, 07:08:53 am »
I never read it though :P I said it was stupid if it clashed with game evidence and simple logic and how CT and CC tied the FF together.

Well, the age thing might be right. Since we don't know when the older Kid went back in time. For all we know, she could have been 30 when she goes back to save Serge. If Kid was around 10/11 during the burning orphanage, it would still make sence.

We know that Wazuki didn't turn fully (we can speculate) rouge and into Lynx before 1010AD. When 1010AD occured, that was when Wazuki lost control and Lynx finally killed Serge. Lucca's house burns only after 1010AD then. In one timeline, Lynx goes after Lucca, but she hesitates to unlock the lock. So in the other dimension, Lynx goes after the Dead Sea's flame (I don't think FATE would attempt abducting Lucca again (not to mention that Lynx can't jump dimensions with her in Home World). And because Kid was roughly found by Lucca in 1004AD, then Kid would be exactally 11 during the burning orphanage and making her exactally 16 (her CC age) in 1020AD.

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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2005, 03:49:06 am »
It is extremely difficult to apply conventional theories of time to the Chrono Universe. Its time physics follow their own laws because they were written that way. Think of every video game as being like a book from Myst: each represents a wholly independent reality which obeys the laws of physics established by its authors.

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« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2005, 01:32:07 am »
So your talking about a timeline system similiarly seen in the anime show Shinzo, where an infinte amount of timelines can exist simultaniously even though we as individuals can only expience only an even then the particular timeline we are in is in a constant state flux due the very movents of position of molecules and dimensional planes at any give moment of time (...don't ask).

But I don't think this applies with the linear/two dimension timeline of chrono trigger while your looking a poly-quantum temporal plane of existance, good theory though.

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« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2005, 01:58:48 am »
That's exactly what I was saying.

I believe you're right.  Thinking back upon this, I don't think it would flow completely with CT's timeline(s) and dimensions.  Maybe moreso with Chrono Cross', but still not quite.