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Box TV vs Flat HD TV
« on: June 01, 2011, 03:37:49 pm »
I am wanting to play through the Chrono games soon because I have not had a chance to do so in a while.  I am a bit afraid that the HD resolution could mess up the experience?

Has anyone played Chrono Cross on a new tv?  If so, did it still make you feel like a rainbow possessed your tv?  How bad are the jaggies?  Thanks for any help :)

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Re: Box TV vs Flat HD TV
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2011, 05:34:27 pm »
I can say Chrono Cross on an HDTV via PS3 is better than, say, a PS1 or PS2. But it is still a PS1 game. The best image you're going to find is with an emulator that can use higher quality shaders and models and stuff, but I'm no expert with PSX emulation.

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Re: Box TV vs Flat HD TV
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2011, 06:34:30 pm »
Unsure, but there is a solution! Hit yourself upside the head with a brick until the polygons from the PS1 Engine look as high-tech as the graphics today! 'Course, by that point you might find the gameplay a little difficult, but then you'll be able to wrap your crushed brain around the plot!

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Re: Box TV vs Flat HD TV
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2011, 08:09:25 pm »
This concept makes much more sense in my mind than I'm capable of putting in text, but I'm hoping the gist of the idea gets through.

It's been my experience that, in order to get the optimum "crispness" of graphical and audio capability, the television and system should be chronologically, and therefore, technologically equivalent to the style of connection (RF/coaxial, composite, component, HDMI, etc.) being used to join the two.

The big technological hurdle is matching the hardware at both ends of the connection. For instance, if you're planning on playing CC on a PS1 with the old composite AV patch cord, you will probably want to use a CRT, "box"-style TV, as those tended to be built around the use of composite connections as a primary source of input. In this scenario, the use of an HDTV would be technical overkill; it's an instance of the TV actually doing its job so well that the resulting image quality tends to be somewhat poor, as it would also display the impurities of the composite connection that aren't ordinarily seen on an older CRT screen.

Using older connection tech on newer TVs is like watching a worn-out VHS tape. It will work, but it might have you subconsciously rubbing your eyes in an attempt to get the image to come into better focus.

If you're actively trying to go HD, CC would probably look best if it was played on a PS3, using an HDMI connection. If the aliasing, or jagged-stairs effect, of the older graphics is a bit too pronounced, try using a PS2, a component (Y, Pb/Cb, Pr/Cr) connection, or both.
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Re: Box TV vs Flat HD TV
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2011, 08:14:24 pm »
I've got a fairly large Samsung CRT TV if you want to buy one. SNES and PS1 games look great on it.

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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2011, 12:55:42 pm »
This concept makes much more sense in my mind than I'm capable of putting in text, but I'm hoping the gist of the idea gets through.

It's been my experience that, in order to get the optimum "crispness" of graphical and audio capability, the television and system should be chronologically, and therefore, technologically equivalent to the style of connection (RF/coaxial, composite, component, HDMI, etc.) being used to join the two.

The big technological hurdle is matching the hardware at both ends of the connection. For instance, if you're planning on playing CC on a PS1 with the old composite AV patch cord, you will probably want to use a CRT, "box"-style TV, as those tended to be built around the use of composite connections as a primary source of input. In this scenario, the use of an HDTV would be technical overkill; it's an instance of the TV actually doing its job so well that the resulting image quality tends to be somewhat poor, as it would also display the impurities of the composite connection that aren't ordinarily seen on an older CRT screen.

Using older connection tech on newer TVs is like watching a worn-out VHS tape. It will work, but it might have you subconsciously rubbing your eyes in an attempt to get the image to come into better focus.

If you're actively trying to go HD, CC would probably look best if it was played on a PS3, using an HDMI connection. If the aliasing, or jagged-stairs effect, of the older graphics is a bit too pronounced, try using a PS2, a component (Y, Pb/Cb, Pr/Cr) connection, or both.

Thanks!  That was the sort of stuff i was looking for you covered all of my bases.  I am planning on using my PS2 with the Y, Pb/Cb, Pr/Cr, as my ps3 dose not play older games because of the model.  I thought of using an EMU, however I do not believe my compooter can handle it :(

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Re: Box TV vs Flat HD TV
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2011, 02:01:26 pm »
My hdtv recently died and I had a CRT I wasn't using so I fired up FF7, Xenogears, and CC on my PS3 with regular composite cables (red yellow white) and WOW. They look better than I remember back when they were released! And definitely better than hdmi cable to hdtv.

As far as emulation goes, my 7 year old dell desktop w single core processor, 256mb ram, and onboard sound and video cards can run psx and n64 emulators full speed. Your computer should be able to handle it, I think it's more a question of what software to use. Epsxe is not user friendly on the set up but you can use anti aliasing and other cool features once it's working. Again, I'm no expert on this stuff, but if it's a route you choose to take, google is your friend.