Magic and Characters in CT

[SilentMartyr]

Alright, I'll get started on it as soon as possible.

[V_Translanka]

I never really thought about Dino Tail & Frog Squash as being Summons before...Perhaps the large amount of energy required to summon such beasts simply requires a sacrifice.

[SilentMartyr]

ZaeLity, for the monster techs you said there was a master list. Is that in the Battle Messages II section?

[SilentMartyr]

Sorry for the double post but while I was making up the list of all techs I came upon an explination for the groups non magical non physical techs (slurp, slash, ect.). Thought you  guys might wanna hear it.

Spekkio unlocked some of the groups the ability to use magic. When doing so he told each of them about thier inner aura, I'd get quotes but I'm too lazy to find a script. Now this aura is also mentioned by a couple of the Zealites, saying how it was kind or something.

Crono, Lucca, Marle, and Frog all have this aura. Magus is different from them so I won't include him. These aura's convey a persons personality through Magic. Crono is quick to act, but always puts his saftey behind everyone else's, hence he has heavenly/lightning. Lucca had deep passion for the things she does and cares for everyone she knows, giving her fire. Marle is fun loving and has a calming beauty, resembling ice water. Like liquid water Frog can be pushed around by anything, but he will never fail. He will always be doing what he is supposed to do, even if something slows him down.

The analogies are a little out there to grasp, I will explain them more if people don't get it.

So based off that, Crono can perform Slash due him being able to focus his aura and physically manifest it through his body and out his sword. Marle can focus her aura to perform Aura (Getting a little confusing are we?) being able to heal small wounds, nothing serious. Frog focuses his aura and makes his tounge do things it could not normally be able to do, like strech and pull incredible weights (slurp cut) and slighty heal someone (slurp).

[V_Translanka]

Frog focuses his aura and makes his tounge do things it could not normally be able to do, like strech and pull incredible weights (slurp cut) and slighty heal someone (slurp).

While I can agree with the aura's (or chi) of the characters coming into play for both Slash & Aura...Frog's abilities don't/aren't really seem magical...At least not the Slurp Cut anyways...I mean, a normal frog expanded to his size would have a tongue of greater length, right? I don't think it's implausible to think that Frog's tongue can stretch...And, seeing as it's so big, it can probably pull whatever mostly, the tongue is a fairly strong muscle...The healing I could attribute to certain chemical properties within his frogy saliva perhaps?

[SilentMartyr]

Frog focuses his aura and makes his tounge do things it could not normally be able to do, like strech and pull incredible weights (slurp cut) and slighty heal someone (slurp).

While I can agree with the aura's (or chi) of the characters coming into play for both Slash & Aura...Frog's abilities don't/aren't really seem magical...At least not the Slurp Cut anyways...I mean, a normal frog expanded to his size would have a tongue of greater length, right? I don't think it's implausible to think that Frog's tongue can stretch...And, seeing as it's so big, it can probably pull whatever mostly, the tongue is a fairly strong muscle...The healing I could attribute to certain chemical properties within his frogy saliva perhaps?

Personally I agree with you, but there were some naysayers that thought that it couldn't be possible for a tounge to be able to pull something over like 100lbs. I see that explination as more of a fail safe than anything else. If we can get away with just saying that the transformation itself gave him these abilities I would be a happy man.

[V_Translanka]

Not to mention that all of the heroes themselves are just supernaturally strong otherwise, so why couldn't Frog's tongue be so, right? Naysayers beware!

[SilentMartyr]

Not to mention that all of the heroes themselves are just supernaturally strong otherwise, so why couldn't Frog's tongue be so, right? Naysayers beware!

Well not right off the bat, but they do get pretty damn strong.

[DeweyisOverrated]

Frog Squash/Dino Tail: Hrmm, this is a toughy. Both seem to have some ability to summon a creature. While Frog's is at least understandable, Ayla's maks no sense, Reptites were her enemy, not her ally. This is a little hard to justify, from the animation they both make a cry and then the being appears. The best logic I can come up with is that through thier abilties as fighters they gained the ability to control a sentient being to complete thier will, ala Final Fantasy. It's really crappy, but they aren't giving us much to go one for these two.

Maybe not all of the reptites were their enemies?  Keep in mind, the "dactyls" as Ayla called them were Crono & Co's allies, bringing them, to the castle and helping them escape and all...

[SilentMartyr]

Frog Squash/Dino Tail: Hrmm, this is a toughy. Both seem to have some ability to summon a creature. While Frog's is at least understandable, Ayla's maks no sense, Reptites were her enemy, not her ally. This is a little hard to justify, from the animation they both make a cry and then the being appears. The best logic I can come up with is that through thier abilties as fighters they gained the ability to control a sentient being to complete thier will, ala Final Fantasy. It's really crappy, but they aren't giving us much to go one for these two.

Maybe not all of the reptites were their enemies?  Keep in mind, the "dactyls" as Ayla called them were Crono & Co's allies, bringing them, to the castle and helping them escape and all...

Hmm, well this might be a strech but they could have been captured in a previous fight and raised to be transports. I would sgree with you but there is no other reptites that are not trying to kill the apes.

EDIT: Ha, after thinking about it, isn't the scream that Ayla uses to call the dactyl sound a lot like what the Reptites fight scream sounds like? Maybe the dactyl only respond to that call, but don't distinguish who or what is riding them.

[ZeaLitY]

Complete list of enemy techs (click a tech, and then "What links here" to view what monsters it uses right now):

http://www.chronocompendium.com/wiki/index.php?title=Monster_Techs

[Bouldegarde]

Maybe it's possible to get a "reference" from here

http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Bending_arts