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« Reply #45 on: November 29, 2005, 09:28:57 pm »
Delightful! Truly a masterpiece!  :D

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« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2005, 11:42:08 pm »
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Delightful! Truly a masterpiece!  :D


Er, wow... thank you very much.

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« Reply #47 on: November 30, 2005, 03:33:29 am »
Yes great, loved the Benny Hill scene.

One thing though, please don't use the word "emo" (if you can even call it a word), I hate it with my entire existance. If you mean emotional, say emotional.

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« Reply #48 on: November 30, 2005, 05:10:33 am »
For those of you this isn't addressing, feel free to skip this (it is civil, it's just that if it doesn't necessarily apply to you it may likely be waste of your time to read):

To Dirtie

No can do on that one, sorry. Emotional is a state of being, Emo is an intentionally insulting slang for someone who is often emotional in a bad way (everyone is emotional at some time or another, but not everyone is emo). They're not the same word. We mean Emo and not Emotional. That Lucca called Crono it despite the fact he had good reasons for what he was doing was part of the joke.

As we told someone else on our personal forum, just because you dislike one type of joke doesn't make you the world and thus we don't stop using it. He told us we must never again cuss period ever like when the guards were talking amongst themself. Yet he was the only person we saw making this complaint.  Further more although there are a few people who are demanded the elimination of the credits or else, yet more people like it.

That isn't to say we don't listen to any complaints. The reason the work Fuck is spelled  F*CK is because A GREAT MANY PEOPLE complained, not one (which is somewhat funny as it was almost all people on Newgrounds complaining). A number of features and tweaks will be made in Episode 12 based on common complaints about Episode 11, many revolving around getting the hidden scene which more or less was a near universal complaint.

Sorry to dissapoint you, but we aren't fans of being PC. We aren't going out of our way to offend people, but we also wouldn't give a flying fuck - so to speak - if someone complained that a nativity scene in our  personal yard  during christmas made them uncomfortable. I hope this doesn't become a reason for you to stop watching. It's just that it's impossible to say or do anything funny if you're trying to be 100% PC

We're not trying to be bad, but something will ALWAYS offend someone somewhere no matter what it is. There is one person who demanded we stop this because CT is the most godly game ever and we are fucking morons to dare and make humor out of its plot at all and tried to claim we'd be stupid to not listen because if we don't everyone who loves Crono Trigger will virus us to hell or something and he was going to rally them against our evil. Admittedly you are far more mature right now than that person who seemed as if he wanted to make love to the game in a literal way (I mean, I love the Chrono Series... but I don't believe it's above God or anything).

I'm Glad to hear you liked the chase sequence.

P.S. Cryo, if you read that, you haven't met that CT-Love-Worshipper yourself I don't think (but I sure have). It wasn't addressed to anyone in particular, more a general threat that 'if you were smart you'd come to your senses and delete it or else as you'd have to realise you were asking every gamer ever to kill you' in a conversation about the series in the past I was in somewhere else (when I was still just a watcher). You know the kind, every forum has at least one when it gets big enough.

Dirtie, I reiterate, you are NOT that bad here. You had the intelligence to not make your request as if you were the voice of the world in an intimidation factor attempt to force your way with adertising style pseudo-logic persuasion. You get massive brownie points for that in my opinion, at least. Take joy in the fact I answered this and not Cryo, as if you read his responses to singular complaints on Newgrounds on the older episodes before I joined you'd have to realize theres a good chance he'd not be polite right now.

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« Reply #49 on: November 30, 2005, 05:59:06 am »
Glorious news, Mystik3eb (Dan Scannell) and me are working on the creation of the original theme song to be used in the newer and improved intro animation to Chrono Trigger Unglued (and like the ending credits sequence, I only have to make it once and then can reuse it for free later on). Those who like this fact can send praise to him and wish him the best of luck in the composition of the song, because it was REALLY nice of him to offer to do it for free. Those who don't, please only send your complaints to me as my mind was long ago  made up to have an original theme song long before he volunteered to do it for free (and Cryo loved it too when I pitched it to him... even when it still was going to cost money).

Furthermore, for the record so as to assuage the fears of those of you opposed to the idea of an original opening, I wouldn't have accepted just anyone who claimed to be free and willing. I only accepted his offer after a review of his music which showed that his talent level in both singing and lyrics, as well as his recording quality ability, were all good and up to par with what I desired. You see, I'm a stickler about audio which is why I was willing to pay money to have it made in the first place*.

Oh yes, Mystik3eb yourself... YOU ROCK!

WARNING, THOSE WISHING TO FOLLOW AND SEE WHAT THE ASTERISK IS ABOUT, YOU ARE ABOUT TO SEE A RANT THAT YOU CAN FREELY SKIP. UNLESS YOU WANT THE SERIES TO BE VOICED WHOLLY FROM HERE ON THAT IS, AND YOU CAN STILL FREE FREE TO SKIP IT THEN EVEN. UNLESS THAT IS YOU THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY THAT THE SERIES BE VOICED AT ALL COSTS, THEN YOU MUST READ.  LASTLY, IF YOU JUST LIKE READING RANTS FOR THE HELL OF IT, DON'T LET ME STOP YOU NO MATTER WHAT YOUR OPINION IS. THERE IS NO CUSSING, BUT I WON'T DENY I'M A LITTLE BITTER ABOUT WHAT I SAY IN IT.

*Which is also a reason I'll probably never switch to voicing the series as most free VAs in the flash scene gets way too haughty on you if you ask them to rerecord a line. Whether it was because of bad audio quality was bad, or they didn't say it right, they'll just claim you can just fix it in a sound program. Thus if you don't care to do so, it's not their fault.

Yeah, I hate to break it to those people, but a sound program isn't a mircale working piece of software if the recording is just bad and/or completely wrong to begin with (and if such software exists, it's beyond the budget of any indy project). You volunteered, that's a commitment to act professional so don't give me the I'm not paying you anything excuse as voice acting isn't a single take business. Don't want to do it right? Don't volunteer at all!

You have to practice professionalism you know. You can't just magically turn it on like a lightbulb the day you try to get the real deal job. But go ahead, since you want to be a dick please do build up those bad habbits now so that you're stuck with them when you need that job and I'm having the last laugh. And if you disagree, just remember that disagreeing with someone doesn't mean they're wrong. Look it up now if you actually want that job someday.

That is of course all assuming they have the proper equipment for clean recordings at all, and lord do they ever get nasty when you reject them because their equipment isn't good enough. But that's not really a big issue if the equipment is no good you don't have to deal with them at all if you don't want to after you first tell them no (just remember to delete every e-mail they send without reading it and block them on your IM).

Of course not every free VA with an ounce of talent is bad, some are actually quite good. The law of the universe dictates that they will become utterly unable to do it if you accept them. Yes, the fact you accepted them for the part, coupled with the fact they aren't a dick, will cause cosmic forces to fuck up their life so you're stuck with the back up team of dicks. Thus you can't win at all, unless you know everyone of you VAs in real life and are willing to keep them on a short leash by physical means.

Do not use the fact I haven't animated much in the past to claim I don't know what I'm talking about. I did once help someone manage auditions and sound collecting for their own project and it was an experience I'd not soon want to repeat. I do not kid here, in fact I probably understate the facts of all that happened during those screwy times. Furthermore I've seen it happen hundreds of times to other projects. I don't wan't to try and be the one in a million exception that happens once every blue moon.

DISCLAIMER TO THE RANT YOU JUST READ IF YOU REFUSED TO SKIP IT UNDER THE ADVICE OF THE FIRST DISCLAIMER EITHER BECAUSE THE RANT APPLIED TO YOU OR YOU JUST FELT LIKE ReADING A RANT ANYWAYS:

All of the above rant assumed the person I'm talking about had, or was able to produce, the right kind of voice that I sought for a character to begin with. Those who were told they idn't have the right kind of voice, amazingly, seemed to accept that very well most of the time. Yeah, sadly I said most of the time (but it was still a major improvement over the behavior of the ones we were actively considering).

Thankfull only one one person tried to claim I didn't know what the character sounded like and demanded that I fetch the animator for her. She thought she was better friends with the animator than me, and I didn't know who she was if I had the never to deny her the part. Which was funny as it was an animation project based on a story I wrote myself, and  furthermore I had known the animator for years upon years and she had only known her for a few months. The aformentioned animation project never came togeher because of many such problems like this during the pre-production.

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« Reply #50 on: November 30, 2005, 06:01:51 pm »
Hahahaha Clovis15

Curiously enough, I posted a link to CTU at a small forum from my country and one little-headed dude said exactly the same kind of shit, like "WOO how can you come and post a link to a flash movie that screws with the best game ever! You DEVIL! Like DIE DIE DIE!" hahahahahaha

So funny, these ppl...

But then again, the kind of "black-humor", sarcastic~ironic "spikey" humor you both use in the series is simply awesome, another kind of humor wouldn't fit as well in such an intelligent storyline as CT's... Let the close-minded fanboys learn to appreciate what's fun, otherwise, let's just keep receiveng more of this "idiotic-humor" contained in their flamings and ROFL x)

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« Reply #51 on: November 30, 2005, 06:58:03 pm »
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Hahahaha Clovis15

Curiously enough, I posted a link to CTU at a small forum from my country and one little-headed dude said exactly the same kind of shit, like "WOO how can you come and post a link to a flash movie that screws with the best game ever! You DEVIL! Like DIE DIE DIE!" hahahahahaha

So funny, these ppl...

But then again, the kind of "black-humor", sarcastic~ironic "spikey" humor you both use in the series is simply awesome, another kind of humor wouldn't fit as well in such an intelligent storyline as CT's... Let the close-minded fanboys learn to appreciate what's fun, otherwise, let's just keep receiveng more of this "idiotic-humor" contained in their flamings and ROFL x)


What country are you from? It'd be most hilarious if it turned out to be the same guy (although it's far more likely you found his one and only twin brother seperated at birth).

Anyways, Sarasm and Ironic Commentary is the name of the game for us. The story of CTU, which will mostly perfectly follow the game's plot, is about the life of one man thrust into a destiny that in all honesty sucks somewhat and has a part or two that is downright unfathomable. If you were in Crono's shoes, you'd need to keep chugging that Ether just to not kill yourself.

As for 'humor from the morons' I've been pondering a secret scene sometime in the future where we respond to some of the more singular and out there comments we've gotten (either because they're blatantly misinformed, impossible to read, or both). Failing that we'll have a section for such commentary on the new series webpage we're building right now that will have a dedicated server.

And thanks for the informing that there is at least one more 'CT-Love-Make-Wither' out there.

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« Reply #52 on: November 30, 2005, 08:07:45 pm »
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What country are you from? It'd be most hilarious if it turned out to be the same guy (although it's far more likely you found his one and only twin brother seperated at birth).


I'm from Brazil x)

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Anyways, Sarasm and Ironic Commentary is the name of the game for us. The story of CTU, which will mostly perfectly follow the game's plot, is about the life of one man thrust into a destiny that in all honesty sucks somewhat and has a part or two that is downright unfathomable. If you were in Crono's shoes, you'd need to keep chugging that Ether just to not kill yourself.


Totally agreed XD

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As for 'humor from the morons' I've been pondering a secret scene sometime in the future where we respond to some of the more singular and out there comments we've gotten (either because they're blatantly misinformed, impossible to read, or both). Failing that we'll have a section for such commentary on the new series webpage we're building right now that will have a dedicated server.


Hahahahaha, I look forward to that!!  :D

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And thanks for the informing that there is at least one more 'CT-Love-Make-Wither' out there.


Hahahaha, you're welcome  :wink: :D

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« Reply #53 on: December 01, 2005, 04:08:05 am »
I wasn't offended in the least Clovis, but I still maintain that "emo" isn't a word, other than used in context of the musical genre/sub-genre (I despise the fact that music has to be divided up into sub-genres and sub-sub-genres by the way :P). "Emotional", in my humble opinion, would have fitted quite nicely in there, and the dialog would have still retained its meaning. Anyway, the choice is yours - I wasn't expecting you to even think about changing it, the post merely expressed my dislike for it (does that make me "emo" >_<?). Maybe I should have included a smiley or two to show that it was a light-hearted post.

I must commend you and Cryo on the entire series though, so far it has been genius. In fact, when I finish converting all the sound effects to WAV format (I've already ripped all the SPCs: see the front page, third article down), I'm sure they could be of a whole lot of use to you, should you choose to use them in future episodes. It may take a little while that's all  :(

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« Reply #54 on: December 01, 2005, 09:05:52 am »
"Emo", as Clovis said, is not just reference to that style of music, but that new culture that has been formed. A rather easy one to make fun of, which incidentally only adds to their depression. The term was perfect for where it was used in the episode. Especially since Crono's hair is kinda...well...^_^ Kinda reminds me of Mark's in Blink182's Down video. God that hair was awesome...

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« Reply #55 on: December 01, 2005, 01:14:02 pm »
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I wasn't offended in the least Clovis, but I still maintain that "emo" isn't a word, other than used in context of the musical genre/sub-genre (I despise the fact that music has to be divided up into sub-genres and sub-sub-genres by the way :P). "Emotional", in my humble opinion, would have fitted quite nicely in there, and the dialog would have still retained its meaning. Anyway, the choice is yours - I wasn't expecting you to even think about changing it, the post merely expressed my dislike for it (does that make me "emo" >_<?). Maybe I should have included a smiley or two to show that it was a light-hearted post.

I must commend you and Cryo on the entire series though, so far it has been genius. In fact, when I finish converting all the sound effects to WAV format (I've already ripped all the SPCs: see the front page, third article down), I'm sure they could be of a whole lot of use to you, should you choose to use them in future episodes. It may take a little while that's all  :(


Those sounds Definitely WOULD be useful. Becuase we couldn't find the official sounds, we had to use RPG Maker sounds for the switch being thrown and the Jail Cell closing in Episode 11. However, SPCs aren't quite so useful for a large number of reasons.

And your comments give me an idea. The world needs a Bumper Sticker that reads: "I get Emo whenever you say Emo."

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« Reply #56 on: December 01, 2005, 01:54:52 pm »
To Mystik3eb:

I see you've gotten an account at our official forums. Since I haven't mentioned it yet, I believe you should have the honors of mentioning the new Theme Song project, and your key position in it, over there.

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« Reply #57 on: December 01, 2005, 06:05:51 pm »
It still says I'm waiting for approval.

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« Reply #58 on: December 01, 2005, 07:32:57 pm »
I think I just fixed it, letting you in I mean. I SWEAR, I am going to make Cryo turn off that damn worthless feature one way or another. It's anal for us to have to 'okay' each account. ERGH!

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« Reply #59 on: December 02, 2005, 01:56:55 pm »
Thr33 cheers for intro music!  :lol: