Crimson Echoes Weapon Names

[Hadriel]

On elves: Haven't played Warcraft, wouldn't know.  But I'd still believe that.

Anyway, I came up with some staff names for Schala, and promptly erased them due to the backlash.  Some pendant ideas are forthcoming.

I had an idea for a Janus weapon: the Forsaker.  The Arabic word for "forsaker" is Khadhulu, which bears a glaring similarity to Cthulhu, the Lovecraftian demon upon which Lavos was partially based.  It reflects Janus' current struggle, and I think it fits.  Plus, "Forsaker" sounds unreasonably awesome.

[Legend of the Past]

Pendant is a neat idea.

How about giving the Pendent "load points", like locations, similar to Element Power Points, where it can be powered up? Can it be done in TF?

[teh Schala]

Well, it'd probably work similar to the Millennial Fair's silver points...  The only obstacle I can see is that we'd have to get into the battle engine and set it up so that Schala's attacks decrease her Pendant Points (I'll abbreviate it PP for now) with each attack.  Also, the player would need a display to let them know how many PP Schala has left.  This could get pretty messy.  Because of this, I'm against that system for now, but who knows?

Another option could be that her pendant just needs to be recharged after a certain amount of time, rather than a certain number of discharges.  So she could always attack, but if it's been like 300 hours since you last charged it, it would do minimal damage.

Now THAT variation on the system could get really cool, and it wouldn't be too difficult.  In the object code for when we draw Schala in the party on each screen, we'd just have to insert a check to see how long it's been since the pendant was last charged, find the address that stores her attack power, and adjust it accordingly.

Different charge points could charge her pendant to different levels of strength...  Example, a standard save point might boost her pendant a little, while throwing it in front of the Mammon Machine would put it up to huge power.  Other variations could also exist...  Schala could also charge her pendant by using more "secret" objects such as the Sun Stone or even the Frozen Flame, the latter of which would give her INSANE attack power and would have to be very secret (if we can justify its presence at all).  I'd imagine that if her pendant was charged by the Frozen Flame, her attacks may be on par with the Lavos Core's slap attack. =P  Now THAT'S cool.  

[Zaperking]

I was thinking that maybe Schala lost her pendant, and was given a temporary one, untouched by Lavos' power that reflected on her own self. But near the end of the game, her pendant would be found, and that would start in the chain events to her being sucked into the DBT.

[Daniel Krispin]

Oh, And how about a bow named Apollo or something for Marle

Already have Apollon, the more true version, listed, as well as Far-Shooter, which is the epithet of Apollo.

Anyway... I have a total of 21 weapons drawn so far, about 16 pending to be coloured - in other words, most of the current list is accounted for. I'll post them soon.
By the way, I've also been trying to draw some more 'futuristic' weapons, though I don't know if I'm all that good at that sort of thing. But I'll let everyone else judge when I post them.

[Lordchander]

How about giving the Pendent "load points", like locations, similar to Element Power Points, where it can be powered up? Can it be done in TF?

Yes, I got that idea from the Elemental Power Points, so the Pendant will just act like that in the same way. Though i havent a clue if something like that could be done using TF, and there is no way im going in there to find out. Send some1 like Chickenlump or Geiger in to have a look. I wasnt really taking into account about how TF could handel such a thing. And also, what would we name each Pendant Forms (that is what i'll call them from now on), im guessing the first could be called something like
Mammon M. Pendant (because it first powered up by the MM)




~LC

[Hadriel]

I'm good with drawing up schemes for future weapons, but they still need names.

[Lordchander]

Im not that good at making up names but i can try, i think we should start from the first pendant we get, then work our way up.

[teh Schala]

One way of doing it would be to simply progress through names of minerals, maybe with some even giving it an elemental attribute or other special ability that comes with that particular pendant.  A few examples:

Sapphire Pendant -- Sapphire obviously being blue, probably a little deeper blue than Schala's Dreamstone Pendant.  This may enhance her resistance to Water-elemental magic, or other water-related stuff.  Maybe it could actually make her absorb water attacks, or simply attach the water elemental attribute to her physical attacks.  (Yeah, I know that kind of system would be a pain, but it's an idea.)

Ruby Pendant -- A nice red one, so it would probably have something to do with fire attacks.

Obsidian Pendant -- Black / Shadow.

Jasper Pendant -- I read somewhere (probably in the Compendium!) that jasper is probably the actual mineral identity of Dreamstone...although jasper is by no means rare.  Nonetheless, maybe there's a way to tie it in?

Gold Pendant -- Enemies drop more money?

I think you get the idea I'm shooting at...

[Lordchander]

Nice idea. I reckon we can use some of them in CE. We could probably use Dreamstone Pendant for Schala's first pendant.

  : I have an idea, maybe Schala and Marle can both use their pendants together as a Dual Tech to do something! Any ideas?

[teh Schala]

Hmm...  Are there any time-travel theories about what happens when a past version of something interacts with its future self?  I think I heard that if someone meets and interacts with their past self, the world explodes or something...

By "first pendant" if you mean the original one she had in Chrono Trigger, then yes.  If you mean her weakest one, HECK no!  Dreamstone Pendant should be just about the ultimate.

By the way, on the subject of Dreamstone, we've made the observation that most of the great weapons in the game are made from either Dreamstone, Rainbow Shell, Sunstone, or an alloy combo of them, these could be more ideas for her pendant.  What would a Sunstone pendant do?  Rainbow Shell Pendant?  And just as the Sunstone+Rainbow Shell created Crono's "Rainbow" sword, what kind of pendant would an alloy of them yield?

Talk amongst yourselves.  

[Daniel Krispin]

I'm good with drawing up schemes for future weapons, but they still need names.

Well, I've drawn a few. I drew a futuristic sniper rifle for the SnipeShot, and a similar handgun for the QuantaShot. I also drew a semi-futuristic scythe (which I hate, but I think I'd hate most any 'futuristic' version of ancient weaponry, save for perhaps certain 'laser swords'), and finally a bow that works - I think - similar to a bowcaster in that it uses magnetic propulsion (here, though, the points at the ends of the bow - it's a crossbow - are magnetically charged and created a field from one to the other. This acts like a 'string' that propells the bolt.) Beyond this, I drew the Iscariot, the JadeHilt, the Shamshir, DwarfSword, ArmingEdge, Erebos, Gilt Sword, Caliburn, Strainer (That one was hard!), and Fay Arrow. Hmmm... maybe I'll put them up as a black and white collouge for now.

[Hadriel]

I'm good with drawing up schemes for future weapons, but they still need names.

Well, I've drawn a few. I drew a futuristic sniper rifle for the SnipeShot, and a similar handgun for the QuantaShot. I also drew a semi-futuristic scythe (which I hate, but I think I'd hate most any 'futuristic' version of ancient weaponry, save for perhaps certain 'laser swords'), and finally a bow that works - I think - similar to a bowcaster in that it uses magnetic propulsion (here, though, the points at the ends of the bow - it's a crossbow - are magnetically charged and created a field from one to the other. This acts like a 'string' that propells the bolt.) Beyond this, I drew the Iscariot, the JadeHilt, the Shamshir, DwarfSword, ArmingEdge, Erebos, Gilt Sword, Caliburn, Strainer (That one was hard!), and Fay Arrow. Hmmm... maybe I'll put them up as a black and white collouge for now.

I thought of the same thing; I simply called it a Rail Crossbow, though as long as we're tossing in stuff from other stories Bowcaster might not be so bad.  I do know a bit of Shyriiwook, but unfortunately it's all Grrhwahrr and stuff; nothing that you can translate into English.

What's wrong with technologically enhanced versions of ancient weapons, exactly?  Logically, such things should be many times more effective than their archaic equivalents, except in the case of Zeal-level magic use, and Zeal utilizes both magic and technology anyway (one could call it meta-technology or even magitech, following after FF6).  But anyway, a civilization that has the capacity to construct time distortion technology has the capacity to make vibroblades, bat'leths, lightsabers, or in general whatever they feel like.

[Lordchander]

Hmmm...yes a Rainbow Pendant may be a powerful one considering what u said about Crono's Rainbow Sword and that Jake, though I wouldn't go as far to sy it would be the strongest, I say we could come up with something even stronger, maybe even a Dreamstone and Sun Stone mixture? Or i might go as far as a Dreamstone+Sun Stone+Rainbow Shell mixture, then powered up at the 'Load Points' or watever Legend said before.

And when I said the Dreamstone Pendant, I meant the Pendant that Schala first has in CT, seeing as this is the 'basic' pendant in a way as its the first. We could then go on in the game to use the 'Load Points' (i like the name, good work Legend) to make the Dreamstone stronger or use the above method of combinations with different minerals and metals.

[Daniel Krispin]

What's wrong with technologically enhanced versions of ancient weapons, exactly?  Logically, such things should be many times more effective than their archaic equivalents, except in the case of Zeal-level magic use, and Zeal utilizes both magic and technology anyway (one could call it meta-technology or even magitech, following after FF6).  But anyway, a civilization that has the capacity to construct time distortion technology has the capacity to make vibroblades, bat'leths, lightsabers, or in general whatever they feel like.

They usually look contrived. Say, a futuristic scythe. It gives the impression of just trying to be 'cool', but is in actuality lame. The same goes for futuristic looking swords. They usually don't look functional, and any of the 'futuristic' things serve no purpose. The ones in Knights are all fine, but they look like actual swords, not some fantasy/sci-fi creation.