Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince

[Legend of the Past]

Yes, I'm an HP fan. Shoot me.

So I've just finished read "Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince" (Three and a half days. No non-stop, but I've been spending more time reading it then anything else). Some people may think the Harry Potter books are children books. Let me tell you: This book COMPLETLY eliminates that. It's three times more mature then the Order of the Phoneix. Seriously, every aspect was well done: The conspiracy which was fully revealed in the last few chapters, the little jokes that made the book a bit amusing. But mostly well done was the fact that Rowling made Harry and his buds teenagers. There's love, a lot more then in the Order of the Phoenix. Harry gets jealous, and I won't elaborate.

Dan, I'd expect you're reading this. You once asked me why Voldemoert turned evil. Read this book, it'll make everything clear. It reveals Voldemort's birth, life and transformation into that snake-humanoid-thing. Also reveals the secret of his immortality, and reveals much of his personality, which has an intresting note to it. Plus, Dumbedore's a lot more active in this story.

The story starts out with a rather odd note, which seemes odd at first when coming from an HP book, and ends with a really sad note, that makes you feel like Harry had gotten almost nowhere in terms of DOING, but he did discover something important. Almost everything that mattered to Harry was in a way lost. I'm really hoping to see the conclusion to this tale, and hope Rowling's writing (Whose style had imporved, too, in my opinion) would only improve in the seventh, final Harry Potter book.

[Zaperking]

I haven't read it yet. But My friends read it in under 2 days and I'm borrowing it on Monday.

Even sadder is that I knew what was going to happen before the book even came out. People posted it all over forums... I dunno how they knew.. That this person...... NVM.

[Daniel Krispin]

My little sister read it in two days. Knowing that someone dies, I asked her who (it did not bother me to have it spoiled), and she told me who, by who's hand. I must say, hearing what she told me, I do not even know if I want to read it. The fifth was her least well written, and dragged itself along - remember I am one to read the Iliad and the like without getting bored. And now with THIS sort of ending, it seems to me that she could not have made a worse choice. Perhaps I'm being too harsh before having read it but, as I said, I don't know if I want to now.

Anyway, Harry Potter so far hasn't been all that bad - I liked books 1 - 4, and have like the movies so far, but THIS? Seriously, I think she is just doing things for shock value and the like. Sirius' death at the end of the last one was already badly done and contrived, and this now seems yet worse.

[Lordchander]

I lovd the book. I had a girl friend of mine read it in 5 hrs, she is an absolute fan. It seems that Voldemort really only wanted to rule the wizardring world, not just use the Dark Arts, they were just a way to gain more power.

[Radical_Dreamer]

Gotta love any 600 page book you can read in a day. I read them when I'm visiting my family, so it'll probably be a while before I read this one. They're fun, and it would certainly be quicker than the book I'm currently reading, "Brothers Karamzov", but they aren't quite as satisfying.

[Lordchander]

lets just say that no matter how long it takes you to pick up the book, as long as you read it! It definately is a great read and reveals MUCH about Voldermort in his early days and...

*MAJOR SPOILER ALERT!!!*






















Dumbledore's death

[Legend of the Past]

My little sister read it in two days. Knowing that someone dies, I asked her who (it did not bother me to have it spoiled), and she told me who, by who's hand. I must say, hearing what she told me, I do not even know if I want to read it. The fifth was her least well written, and dragged itself along - remember I am one to read the Iliad and the like without getting bored. And now with THIS sort of ending, it seems to me that she could not have made a worse choice.

In fact, I'd of probably made them same choice: His death (I'll still insist writing the name) seemed like a necesarry one if the story was to progress. Let me quote a scene:

And Harry saw very clearly as he sat there under the hot sun how people who cared about him had stood in front of him one by one, his mother, his father, his godfather, and finally [CENSORED], all determined to protect him; but now that was over. He could not let anybody else stand between him and Voldemortl he must abandon forever the illusion he ought to have lost at the age of one, that the shelter of his parent's arms meant that nothing could hurt him. There was no waking from his nightmare, no comforting whisper in the dark that he was safe really, that it was all in his imagination; The last and greatest of his protectors had died, and he was more alone then he had ever been before.

I hope you'd understand why the death is needed. Like in this new tale I'm planning (Not Liniria, something else) where the hero must face the lose of a mother, three brothers, and about half his friends before he gets any chance to defeating his foe. Which is why the final chapter is called: "I want to hear the sound my ocean emits". He wants to hear it, but he has yet to hear it. Nothing must stand in his way, because he and his foe will destroy all in their path during their battle (Like the Adriana and Lorocon thing when she asked to come with him. She came, she saw, she was murdered). Plus, I doubt your sister even told of the Horcruxes?

Anyway, I'd think you could understand this idea, with your writing and all. The ending of the sixth book is the way it is for one reason: Things must get worse before they can get better. This book can be read stand-alone,  but I look at it as a part of a single story. The ending of this book is not the ending, but it ends with a: "...he felt his heart lift at the thought that there was still ne last golden day of peace left to enjoy with Ron and Hermione." Harry has never been this determined to beat Voldemort, or beat his killer, for that matter. He wants to go like a man, be it his victory, be it his death, to beat Voldemort. That was what he REALLY learned in the sixth year. Also, I like how Rowling did the "Voldemort created his own foe" idea, and how Harry is different from Voldemort.  Anyways, you should still give it a read. It's two, if not three times better then the Order of the Phoenix.

[Lordchander]

I see wat ur saying Legend, now that he is dead (u all know who im talking about), there is no one to stop Harry rushing into to destroy Voldemort (as the book says), and as my friend at school said, now that
*SPOILER*




The Only One He Ever Feared is gone bye-bye, Voldemort can focus all his efforts on Harry and to get rid of him. As u said Legend, the death is needed, damn Snape.

[Daniel Krispin]

My little sister read it in two days. Knowing that someone dies, I asked her who (it did not bother me to have it spoiled), and she told me who, by who's hand. I must say, hearing what she told me, I do not even know if I want to read it. The fifth was her least well written, and dragged itself along - remember I am one to read the Iliad and the like without getting bored. And now with THIS sort of ending, it seems to me that she could not have made a worse choice.

In fact, I'd of probably made them same choice: His death (I'll still insist writing the name) seemed like a necesarry one if the story was to progress. Let me quote a scene:

And Harry saw very clearly as he sat there under the hot sun how people who cared about him had stood in front of him one by one, his mother, his father, his godfather, and finally [CENSORED], all determined to protect him; but now that was over. He could not let anybody else stand between him and Voldemortl he must abandon forever the illusion he ought to have lost at the age of one, that the shelter of his parent's arms meant that nothing could hurt him. There was no waking from his nightmare, no comforting whisper in the dark that he was safe really, that it was all in his imagination; The last and greatest of his protectors had died, and he was more alone then he had ever been before.

I hope you'd understand why the death is needed. Like in this new tale I'm planning (Not Liniria, something else) where the hero must face the lose of a mother, three brothers, and about half his friends before he gets any chance to defeating his foe. Which is why the final chapter is called: "I want to hear the sound my ocean emits". He wants to hear it, but he has yet to hear it. Nothing must stand in his way, because he and his foe will destroy all in their path during their battle (Like the Adriana and Lorocon thing when she asked to come with him. She came, she saw, she was murdered). Plus, I doubt your sister even told of the Horcruxes?

Anyway, I'd think you could understand this idea, with your writing and all. The ending of the sixth book is the way it is for one reason: Things must get worse before they can get better. This book can be read stand-alone,  but I look at it as a part of a single story. The ending of this book is not the ending, but it ends with a: "...he felt his heart lift at the thought that there was still ne last golden day of peace left to enjoy with Ron and Hermione." Harry has never been this determined to beat Voldemort, or beat his killer, for that matter. He wants to go like a man, be it his victory, be it his death, to beat Voldemort. That was what he REALLY learned in the sixth year. Also, I like how Rowling did the "Voldemort created his own foe" idea, and how Harry is different from Voldemort.  Anyways, you should still give it a read. It's two, if not three times better then the Order of the Phoenix.

No, she never told me about those things, those Horcruxes. But I see what you mean. Yet actually, my greatest annoyance was what she did to the other character, the one who actually killed him. Why did she make him evil? That is akin to making Magus evil, I think. He should have been the one to die in Harry's defence! That is my great annoyance, and the chief reason I ceased to be interested in reading it... well, sorry, that's wrong. The chief reasons are that I'm reading the Iliad, and that I'm worried about my style being affected.

[Legend of the Past]

My little sister read it in two days. Knowing that someone dies, I asked her who (it did not bother me to have it spoiled), and she told me who, by who's hand. I must say, hearing what she told me, I do not even know if I want to read it. The fifth was her least well written, and dragged itself along - remember I am one to read the Iliad and the like without getting bored. And now with THIS sort of ending, it seems to me that she could not have made a worse choice.

In fact, I'd of probably made them same choice: His death (I'll still insist writing the name) seemed like a necesarry one if the story was to progress. Let me quote a scene:

And Harry saw very clearly as he sat there under the hot sun how people who cared about him had stood in front of him one by one, his mother, his father, his godfather, and finally [CENSORED], all determined to protect him; but now that was over. He could not let anybody else stand between him and Voldemortl he must abandon forever the illusion he ought to have lost at the age of one, that the shelter of his parent's arms meant that nothing could hurt him. There was no waking from his nightmare, no comforting whisper in the dark that he was safe really, that it was all in his imagination; The last and greatest of his protectors had died, and he was more alone then he had ever been before.

I hope you'd understand why the death is needed. Like in this new tale I'm planning (Not Liniria, something else) where the hero must face the lose of a mother, three brothers, and about half his friends before he gets any chance to defeating his foe. Which is why the final chapter is called: "I want to hear the sound my ocean emits". He wants to hear it, but he has yet to hear it. Nothing must stand in his way, because he and his foe will destroy all in their path during their battle (Like the Adriana and Lorocon thing when she asked to come with him. She came, she saw, she was murdered). Plus, I doubt your sister even told of the Horcruxes?

Anyway, I'd think you could understand this idea, with your writing and all. The ending of the sixth book is the way it is for one reason: Things must get worse before they can get better. This book can be read stand-alone,  but I look at it as a part of a single story. The ending of this book is not the ending, but it ends with a: "...he felt his heart lift at the thought that there was still ne last golden day of peace left to enjoy with Ron and Hermione." Harry has never been this determined to beat Voldemort, or beat his killer, for that matter. He wants to go like a man, be it his victory, be it his death, to beat Voldemort. That was what he REALLY learned in the sixth year. Also, I like how Rowling did the "Voldemort created his own foe" idea, and how Harry is different from Voldemort.  Anyways, you should still give it a read. It's two, if not three times better then the Order of the Phoenix.

No, she never told me about those things, those Horcruxes. But I see what you mean. Yet actually, my greatest annoyance was what she did to the other character, the one who actually killed him. Why did she make him evil? That is akin to making Magus evil, I think. He should have been the one to die in Harry's defence!

Him? Why was he evil? He was half-blood, he was tormented as a child, and that caused him to, shall we say, "turn to the dark side"? Same for Voldemort, really. Messed up childhood messed up his mind. In the end, the Horcruxes (Which you should really talk to you sister about, they'll vasten your understanding of Voldemort's power and just how far he'd go for immortality) turned him completly inhuman. That killer (I insist upon not saying his name in public) was a horrible person from the start off. He was a half-blood hater who hated half-blood, for crying out loud! Just like James, his was filled with vanity, and in the end when a person so great was begging for his life in front of his eyes just because he was sure there some good in him and he still killed him without the slightest blink of emotion, I think you should really care less about this guy. Still, I feel he has a bigger role in the seventh book to come. Well, we'll find out in two to four years, then, if both of us will be still around here (Though I might have to go to the army by then) we'll have a bigger discussion. There's a lot I think you should pay attention to in this series, Dan.

[Lordchander]

Yes, I think we all seven books are here, we should gather a bunch of us HP fans together in a single thread and discuss the series thoroughly. No, there is absolutely no reason saying why he is evil in the HBP, i think all will be revealed in the seventh book.

[Daniel Krispin]

My little sister read it in two days. Knowing that someone dies, I asked her who (it did not bother me to have it spoiled), and she told me who, by who's hand. I must say, hearing what she told me, I do not even know if I want to read it. The fifth was her least well written, and dragged itself along - remember I am one to read the Iliad and the like without getting bored. And now with THIS sort of ending, it seems to me that she could not have made a worse choice.

In fact, I'd of probably made them same choice: His death (I'll still insist writing the name) seemed like a necesarry one if the story was to progress. Let me quote a scene:

And Harry saw very clearly as he sat there under the hot sun how people who cared about him had stood in front of him one by one, his mother, his father, his godfather, and finally [CENSORED], all determined to protect him; but now that was over. He could not let anybody else stand between him and Voldemortl he must abandon forever the illusion he ought to have lost at the age of one, that the shelter of his parent's arms meant that nothing could hurt him. There was no waking from his nightmare, no comforting whisper in the dark that he was safe really, that it was all in his imagination; The last and greatest of his protectors had died, and he was more alone then he had ever been before.

I hope you'd understand why the death is needed. Like in this new tale I'm planning (Not Liniria, something else) where the hero must face the lose of a mother, three brothers, and about half his friends before he gets any chance to defeating his foe. Which is why the final chapter is called: "I want to hear the sound my ocean emits". He wants to hear it, but he has yet to hear it. Nothing must stand in his way, because he and his foe will destroy all in their path during their battle (Like the Adriana and Lorocon thing when she asked to come with him. She came, she saw, she was murdered). Plus, I doubt your sister even told of the Horcruxes?

Anyway, I'd think you could understand this idea, with your writing and all. The ending of the sixth book is the way it is for one reason: Things must get worse before they can get better. This book can be read stand-alone,  but I look at it as a part of a single story. The ending of this book is not the ending, but it ends with a: "...he felt his heart lift at the thought that there was still ne last golden day of peace left to enjoy with Ron and Hermione." Harry has never been this determined to beat Voldemort, or beat his killer, for that matter. He wants to go like a man, be it his victory, be it his death, to beat Voldemort. That was what he REALLY learned in the sixth year. Also, I like how Rowling did the "Voldemort created his own foe" idea, and how Harry is different from Voldemort.  Anyways, you should still give it a read. It's two, if not three times better then the Order of the Phoenix.

No, she never told me about those things, those Horcruxes. But I see what you mean. Yet actually, my greatest annoyance was what she did to the other character, the one who actually killed him. Why did she make him evil? That is akin to making Magus evil, I think. He should have been the one to die in Harry's defence!

Him? Why was he evil? He was half-blood, he was tormented as a child, and that caused him to, shall we say, "turn to the dark side"? Same for Voldemort, really. Messed up childhood messed up his mind. In the end, the Horcruxes (Which you should really talk to you sister about, they'll vasten your understanding of Voldemort's power and just how far he'd go for immortality) turned him completly inhuman. That killer (I insist upon not saying his name in public) was a horrible person from the start off. He was a half-blood hater who hated half-blood, for crying out loud! Just like James, his was filled with vanity, and in the end when a person so great was begging for his life in front of his eyes just because he was sure there some good in him and he still killed him without the slightest blink of emotion, I think you should really care less about this guy. Still, I feel he has a bigger role in the seventh book to come. Well, we'll find out in two to four years, then, if both of us will be still around here (Though I might have to go to the army by then) we'll have a bigger discussion. There's a lot I think you should pay attention to in this series, Dan.

She'd just better redeem him, that's all I'll say. It was far better to have a Magus-like sorcerer than one evil like that. Remember, even Sauron repented for a time.

[Lordchander]

Uh, I must be scratchy on my Lord of the Rings knowledge but I dont remember that. Was it in the LotR or the Silmarillion?

[Zaperking]

Daniel, where do you get your LOTR info from? I read a bit of the Sillamirillion (sp?) and looked at the back for every page on Sauron, and I didn't see anything about repenting. Only that when he was a Maia, he was lured in by one of the music people, Melroth or something.

[Lordchander]

Im with you on that Zaper, unless Daniel has the whole of the History of Middle-Earth books (thats 12 books by da way), i dont see where the info came from.