Frog, the Masamune and the Mammon Machine

[Lordchander]

Has any1 realised, that when Frog has the Masamune and attacks the Mammon Machine in the boss battle at the Black Omen, that you absorb energy from it? Why is this? I know the Masamune has a slight connection to the MM, but surely it wouldn't be a strong link like the Frozen Flame was too Lavos.

Why do u all think?

[Legend of the Past]

Has any1 realised, that when Frog has the Masamune and attacks the Mammon Machine in the boss battle at the Black Omen, that you absorb energy from it? Why is this? I know the Masamune has a slight connection to the MM, but surely it wouldn't be a strong link like the Frozen Flame was too Lavos.

Why do u all think?

Hmm, at one point it absorbes ALL physical attacks, and then it absorbes magic attacks...

[V_Translanka]

Dreamstone sometimes absorbs Magical energy. Like the Mammon Machine itself absorbs the Magical energy of Lavos. And like when the Masamune absorbs Magus' Magical defense energy. Also, the Pendant absorbs energy from the Mammon Machine.

Ta-da!

[Oswego del Fuego]

Yeah, I don't think the Flame or whatever is involved here.  The Mammon Machine and Masamune are made of the same material, so the Masamume would (apparently) be able to conduct the energy within the machine just as the machine itself does.  I guess.

OdF

[kazmaka]

if you go on the fact that dreamstone can absorb magical energy, along with the MM is absorbing magical energy from lavos and lots of it, then apply it to simple scientific laws like difusion, it would be natural that the masamune conecting with the MM (when you hit it) would start to share the energy from the MM which would lead to more being on the masamune (the masamune in effect absorbing the energy from the MM). the question is why/how does this energy replenish frogs hp? if anything you would expect to replenish his mp or make the sword more powerful, the latter being unlikely you would expect the first, hmm.

[V_Translanka]

Maybe the Masamune just absorbs the energy and gives it to Frog. It's Magic, why couldn't it heal his HP? Marle has Magic spells that restore HP.

[Legend of the Past]

Maybe the Masamune just absorbs the energy and gives it to Frog. It's Magic, why couldn't it heal his HP? Marle has Magic spells that restore HP.

Nah, I think the Masamune absorbes it and then sends it into the enviorment...

But still, if I remember correctly, it was like this:

MM absorbes Physical damage. Attack it with magic, and it'll start loading, although taking damage. In the end, it'll send an attack equal to the amount of magical energy it loaded. Still, defeating it quickly is nothing three to five Arc Impulses can't take care of!

[ZeaLitY]

cAN SOMEONE PLEASE CONFIRM WHAT "ABSORBS ENERGY" MEANS IN THE FIRST THREAD?

tHANKS.

[CyberSarkany]

You attack it(physical), do damage, then you regain HP, donno how the dmg:healing formula is .

[GrayLensman]

cAN SOMEONE PLEASE CONFIRM WHAT "ABSORBS ENERGY" MEANS IN THE FIRST THREAD?

tHANKS.

Broke your keyboard?

[Zaperking]

cAN SOMEONE PLEASE CONFIRM WHAT "ABSORBS ENERGY" MEANS IN THE FIRST THREAD?

tHANKS.

Broke your keyboard?

Zeality is gona get banned for CAPS XD Nah J/K.

Umm as to the question. I think it has to do with the fact that Dreamstone is shown to be able to absorb energy forms. Like how the Mammon Machine served not only as a containment for the Frozen Flame, but was able to leech energy from it, like a catalyst, and redirect it for people to use. Such as the Ruby Knife turned into the Masamune with the help of that energy and Masa and Mune itself.

Though, I guess that machine in Chronopolis that is housing the Frozen Flame is also doing a similar style of harnessing and redirecting of the energy as the Mammon Machine did. I guess it means that Dreamstone is a natural energy leech/catalyst.

[Chrono'99]

I've been thinking about something. In the Ocean Palace, Crono and co. tried to destroy the Mammon Machine with the Red Knife. They failed but the knife was so much charged with energy that it turned into a Masamune sword... There's something Melchior didn't know though: the party were already carrying a Masamune with them, the one that comes from the Middle Ages! What if Crono had plunged the fully charged Masamune in the Mammon Machine instead of the weak little Red Knife?

[AuraTwilight]

Then it's possible the Mammon Machine would've been destroyed harmlessly, Crono would've never died, the Masamune would become like... the Mastermune. Frog will have to play the rest of the game with that shitty knife, but it'll be ok because in 600 AD Frog will get the Mastermune first, then throw it into the Mammon machine and it'll become the PWNZORmune, and the process will continue forever in an infinite loop until the Masamune is so big and powerful the EARTH gets caught in IT'S orbit, and it slice and dices Lavos

[Zaperking]

Actually, even if the Masamune went in the machine, i think that chaos of it would still cause Lavos to awaken. Because either way, a reaction will happen wether the machine is turned off or not. And then theres the flame too, that'd probably awake Lavos if it was in danger.

[Kerta_Losataure]

I think the whole think is in the nature of dreamstone. It absorbs energy from any source of energy that produces more than it contains even if its from more dreamstone. The Ruby Knife turne into the MAsamune when it came into contact with the Mammon Machine by absorbing the energy it had absorbed from Lavos. The Mammon Machine has a direct link to Lavos and drains energy steadily from the availible source. The Masamune goes as far as to take the spiritual energy from it's wielder as when Frog gained confidence in himself. His spiritual energy increased and the Masamune absorbed the increase, thus making it stronger. Judging by this reasoning, I'd hate to se what prolonged contact with Lavos could do to the Masamune.