breaking threw lavos

[V_Translanka]

Ok, that's more or less what I thought...Well, except for the Magus thing...The first time I didn't just figure that the Epoch would crash into Lavos' shell. And since it was a surprise, I figured that it could have been the will of Epoch, especially since you see the controls and no one really at them, trying to steer or anything. Either way, the Epoch is sacrificed for the greater good...Why be a sap and use the bucket? And once you've gone through the Black Omen, don't you just HAVE to check and see where that gate goes? I see it as the obvious choice.

[Lordchander]

Yes, I found the whole Magus bit strange, i am going to check what happens on a dif. character instead of Magus.

[Lordchander]

Tried it with Lucca instead of Magus, she says 'Are we really goinng in", option to fight or run, choose fight and Lucca says "I think the Epoch will get us through" then Frog says something that has no relation to this topic, then Lucca "The Epoch will get us through."

This last line implies that perhaps the Epoch is controlling itself, which isnt hard to believ considering u can see it flying outside the BO.

[SilentMartyr]

Well considering the Epoch follows you like a milion times it would be hard pressed to argue that it doesn't have some form of an essence. I personally think that belthasar put some of his mind into the Epoch, much like he did to the Nu.

And I agree with V_T on the ending thing. Balloon for the win!

[beaner 14]

Yes, I do agree on that, but what I had been saying is that it just seems so unlikely they would want to trash the Epoch.

well they can trash it, cause they wont need it anymore will they?

[Lordchander]

Yes, but why would they? Its a perfectly good time-travelling machine that may need to be used again if something happened in time. (Chrono Break any1?)

[beaner 14]

well yea thats true, but they could just take it to the closest pep boys  

[Foolish Boy]

Yes, but why would they? Its a perfectly good time-travelling machine that may need to be used again if something happened in time.

I dont see anything happening in time unless there are other time travelers. And if something DID happen in time, how would Crono and company have any idea that it happened? And its not like they would just joyride through time because there's always a chance that they could screw something up.

The reason I say this is because all the events that happened in Chrono Trigger all took place already. Crono and friends fixed stuff that happened in the past to prevent the future from happening. I'm not saying that it's totally out of the picture because Gaspar mentioned that there were other time travelers. And the whole reason Crono and co. traveled was because the Entity chose them. The epoch just helped out. It wasn't necessary to time travel.

I know it doesnt make much sense to just destroy it. But they said it themselves that time travel is exhausting and that "it's job is done." I think thats what Belthasar would have wanted anyway. wouldnt want it falling into the wrong hands cause anyone could just take it if they have it sitting out back.

[Lordchander]

Gaspar never said in those words that there are other time travellers, he just said that ppl were popping in and out of the EoT recently, which still leaves possiblilities of ppl wreaking havoc through time.

And if you feel that way then, then you could say bye-bye to any hope of Chrono Break, which im sure deep down u want and would buy.

And there is still possibilities to make the game anyway, like Crono's disappearence for instance, for all we know he could have been thrown into another Gate somewhere and could end up finding out of something of a menace like a stray Lavos Spawn that had managed to get through a Gate or something. Basically, there is still room for a CB and the Epoch would be something of major importance in the game.

[beaner 14]

about Chrono Break

didnt they drop the english title though
i mean yea they kept the japanese one but i cant read japanese AT ALL so i mean i dont know if that games comin or not

i really hope that it will come to the US if they make it

[Lordchander]

yes, they did drop the one called 'Chrono Break' in America, but kept the japanese one entitled 'Chrono Brake', I dont know if thats how the translation turns out or not but every1 at the Compendium just says Chrono Break which basically means 'next game' to every1 here.

[V_Translanka]

Basically, there's not going to be a new Chrono game any time soon, but who said anything about no Chrono Break just because we believe in the Balloon Ending? I don't need a reappearance of Crono, Lucca & Marle in every Chrono game. Heck, I could live w/o Magus even (but it would be a sad, sad existence indeed)...It just needs to be good and follow the same fun themes that are relevent in the previous installments: fun gameplay and awesome storylines & characters (yeah, the character thing is stretched a bit thin in CC, but you get the point).

Anyways, just because they let the NA name (Chrono Break) go doesn't mean we'll never see another title. They still have the Japanese Kurono Brake, but heck, we don't know if they'll still use that when they decide to make a new game. It was years ago when they got that name. I think there's hope because the series rocks and it has it's fanbase. It's just that the SE talent is focused elsewhere...they're diversifying quite a bit now...I think once all of that stuff blows over, we may see our next Chrono game yet.

[Foolish Boy]

And if you feel that way then, then you could say bye-bye to any hope of Chrono Break, which im sure deep down u want and would buy.

And there is still possibilities to make the game anyway, like Crono's disappearence for instance, for all we know he could have been thrown into another Gate somewhere and could end up finding out of something of a menace like a stray Lavos Spawn that had managed to get through a Gate or something. Basically, there is still room for a CB and the Epoch would be something of major importance in the game.

ok yes I do want Chrono Brake or any new installment to the series. Don't get me wrong but you are making it seem like there has to be an epoch for Chrono Break to exist.  The thing is, we don't even know what Chrono Break would be about. We had no idea what Chrono Cross was gonna be about and it damn sure didn't need the Epoch. It doesn't need to be a direct sequel to Chrono Trigger (though I would enjoy it if it was), but chances are, it won't be. Chrono Trigger is a complete game, the full package, all the way around. I would rather them leave the story be if they can't enhance it at all.

Though the Epoch did make a short appearance in Chrono Cross if I'm not mistaken, behing the desk in the Library in Viper Manor when you go down the ladder. I think it was wrecked, but I dont remember. I have to play through CC again, right now I'm focusing on CT and getting the rest of the endings on FFC and unlocking the extras.

[Legend of the Past]

In fact, CC has the Neo Epoch. Which is close enough. And CC just woulden't be the same without.

Neo Epoch=Belthasar
Belthasar=Time Egg
Time Egg=TD
TD=End of the game.

[Foolish Boy]

I just looked into it. Neo Epoch and Epoch are 2 different vehicles. The original Epoch has no relevance to the game Chrono Cross other then it might be laying up in some warehouse in pieces on the Zeal continent. Neo Epoch is different, used by Belthasar to go back to modern time to oversee project Kid.

I'm not saying by any means that the Epoch is not important. Indeed very important. But by Chrono Trigger ending I think its hinting at that their adventure is over. They don't need the Epoch anymore. It's just like a form of closure.