why is he stronger?

[SilentMartyr]

Yeah, i'm not exactly sure on that...PD & DBT stuff isn't exactly my most experienced topics (since they delve more into CC stuff)...Perhaps the PD is being moved through time? Or they are just images? Do they judge what attacks Lavos uses?

I am positive that the center bits attacks are based on what time period they are in. Maybe they are in the PD, but are seeing outside of it into the time they are at? They are not surrounded by it, it looks kind of like a big window, if I remember right.

[Foolish Boy]

I was thinking that since the PD is connected to all time periods it gives it a sense of fighting him across time but also still in the PD. Maybe it's how Lavos could view what was going on in the different time periods? Maybe they're aren't so much as going into that time period, but connecting with it. Warping your connection from one to the other to show Lavos' control over time in the PD.

The one thing I'm not so sure of is, if they are defeating him in the PD, why would he be around in CC at all. If the PD is truly a separate dimension which is only connected to the other time periods and dimensions, then by defeating Lavos in the PD in CT, it seems like the basis behind Cross is voided. UNLESS they are fighting him in the DBT for one reason only which is to free Schala. Lavos should have no affect on the events in CC if he is defeated and thrown into the DBT.

If this is a topic that has already been covered then I'm sorry, or if what I'm saying sounds right just clarify it for me. Or if I'm way off, just correct me.

[teh Schala]

Well, it's like I said earlier in the thread:

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The Tesseract ... is essentially where time-transcending entities like Lavos end up when they die.  Since Lavos transcends time, he doesn't just "no longer exist" in the future, but in other time periods as well...  Hence his entire existence basically gets banished to the Tesseract, which is similar to the Darkness Beyond Time -- or maybe it IS the Darkness Beyond Time.  Anyway, that's the idea.
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Now, "normal" entities that die conventionally (such as a human getting killed) aren't erased from the past, only the future.  So their "future" and all possible future timelines that include them in it end up in the Tesseract/DBT.  Since Lavos was killed, boom, he was in the DBT.  Schala is there at the time as well and he ensnared her, but we honestly don't know how she got there.  We have theories of course (temporal disturbances during the Ocean Palace disaster may have caused a number of time paradoxes that we couldn't see, and without knowing where to "put" Schala, the laws of time just kinda threw her aside into the "trash can" of time, the DBT), but none are entirely 100% solid.  But I digress.

[Foolish Boy]

Yes but since Lavos was erased from existence, the only purpose in Chrono Cross is to save Schala. It's not to defeat the TD.

[teh Schala]

Lavos was erased from linear existence (ie timelines) only.  That erasure from linear existence sent him to the DBT where he began to basically just eat the dang universe including time itself.  So actually yes, he was still a threat that STILL needed to be dealt with.

[beaner 14]

is there any possible way for lavos to just be done like no more existence at all like not from timelines alone but like everything like there is no more lavos?

[Beer Pope]

Killing him in the tesseract should have that effect, right?

[teh Schala]

Nothing has ever died in the Tesseract before, so we don't know.  CC's ending didn't really tell much about the fate of any of the characters, let alone Lavos.  Presumably, he's finally gone from everything.  As I referred to the Tesseract/DBT earlier as the "trash can" of time, think of it as emptying your recycle bin.  So yeah, hopefully that means he's gone for good.

[Foolish Boy]

Good explanations Mr. Jake-A-Roonie. So beating him in his PD sent him to the Tesseract, and THAT is where they finished him off, saving Schala as well.

[teh Schala]

Or finishing Schala as well, depending on how stupid Serge was being at the time...

[AuraTwilight]

If you defeat the Time Devourer conventionally, he dissapears into a portal, and who knows WTF that led to or whatever. If you use the Chrono Cross and save Schala, Lavos seems to be like...denied existence. Destroyed. Forever. Erased. Or atleast that's what comes to MY mind when you're drained of color, turn to glass, shatter, and all your shards vanish indefinately and all your work is undone via a timeline convergence.

[Legend of the Past]

If you defeat the Time Devourer conventionally, he dissapears into a portal, and who knows WTF that led to or whatever. If you use the Chrono Cross and save Schala, Lavos seems to be like...denied existence. Destroyed. Forever. Erased. Or atleast that's what comes to MY mind when you're drained of color, turn to glass, shatter, and all your shards vanish indefinately and all your work is undone via a timeline convergence.

In fact, I got the idea he became part of the Tesseract, like timelines that become deleted.

But yeah, his existence is denied. While it's not quiet the "drained of color, turn to glass, shatter, and all your shards vanish indefinately" thing. More like drained of color, having youself broken to particles that scatter throughout nothingness. Oh, and having found that cute girl who sat on your back for over ten thousand years now has a new little friend to magiclly torture. First off, deleting his memory! Next up, burning down Arni Village for no reason at last!

[teh Schala]

I don't know that Schala did that on purpose to Serge...  More like she just knew that the Chrono Cross would have that effect by reuniting the timelines.  Judging by her feelings for him, I imagine she would want him to remember.

[beaner 14]

since he gets thrown into the Tesseract, he cant like break out of that and start screwin stuff up again could he

[teh Schala]

I don't think so...  The only way he could screw things up from the DBT was by just eating time. =P  But since he's too weak to even do THAT now...