Why would Serge and Kid get married?

[AuraTwilight]

the Komodo Scales could've been a goodbye present ^_^

But yea, I'm sure they'll stick together. Maybe Schala's looking for Janus, or something. Really, Schala has no reason to search for Serge. If anyone, it should be Kid.

[Chrono'99]

So, when Schala says

[Schala]
   We alone do not have the power
   to heal the world's woes,
   or to solve all its mysteries.
   
   And yet, even then...

   It was bloody good
   knowing ya, mate!
   Thanks for being born
   '"you,"' Serge!
   
   I guess now's the time to say,
   '"see ya later, mate!"'
   But...
   
   I'll find ya...
   Sometime, somewhere...
   I'm bloody sure of it!
   
   No matter the time period,
   no matter the world ya live in,
   I'll find ya!

   I'm sure...
   I am sure I will find you...

she's speaking to Serge, yet referring to Janus as "you", and saying to Serge that she's sure, sure, bloody sure that she'll find Janus somewhere (as if Serge would care for someone he doesn't even know)?

And it's basically written the same stuff in Schala's diary... I mean, the diary which-belongs-to-Schala-yet-which-tells-Kid's-story-and-is-signed-by-Schala-'Kid'-Zeal...

[Zaperking]

That whole quote in the end of the game proves pretty much that they fused. Kid and Schala. It's as if Schala just adapted a bit of Kid. With the "Bloody, Mate, Ya's" etc. speech.

[AuraTwilight]

Or it could be something much simpler, like Schala being herself without the pressure of being royalty and stuff, since Schala merging with Kid is not only stupid, but also compromises Kid's free spirit and the definition of the word "clone"

[Chrono'99]

What about the diary? Whose diary is it?

[Parallax]

It compromises Kid's free spirit because that's the point. Her entire existence Kid has known she was a piece of Schala subconciously, and was always fighting against that.

"Clone" is misused in this game, it should be something along the lines of "avatar."

She writes Schala "Kid" Zeal to tell you she is both Schala AND Kid. It's as simple as that.

[Oswego del Fuego]

Argh, but that's just it!  Kid isn't just some missing piece!  She is a fully-realized individual with a personality and feelings and dreams entirely unique and separate from those of Schala.  She's not a puppet, and she's not just a false face.  Kid had a whole life with Lucca and a tragic sort of love with Serge.  If Kid is "merged" with Schala, and Kid no longer exists as herself, it's as if her life was stolen from her.  Just because Schala allowed Kid to exist doesn't mean that Schala has a right to steal Kid's life, and I don't believe that Schala WOULD steal Kid's life.

I realize that the points made to the contrary have been good ones, and I really can't argue them based upon any bit of evidence proivded by Cross.  All I can say is that, to me personally, the idea of Kid merely being "reincorporated" into Schala is abhorrent, and I simply choose to reject it.

OdF

[Parallax]

Believe me, I completely understand the sentiment. You grew to love a character, and the idea of her simply being assimilated into someone else, thus erasing her general existence, is a tragic ordeal.


But it's designed to be tragic. Schala sent a piece of herself inside Kid, so that it could grow up, live and do the things needed to be done. I don't think Schala cared wether or not she merged back with Kid, though. I don't think she knew for certain she'd even survive her time with TD.


I think the Kid/Schala merger was an unfortunate side-effect from the use of the Chrono Cross.

[Shadow_Dragon]

Think of it like this: You grow to be 18 (or however old Schala is), then lose your entire memory. For the next 18 years you begin to get new memories, but once you reach 36 you regain all your old memories... This is how I think of Schala/Kid.. I don't think their bodies actually 'merge', but that Schala's original body is beat up and ruined, if not lost, from being a part of the TD; however, Kid regains the memories of Schala and thus 'merges' with her..

Ok, now I'm going to get into abstract ideals. I believe that we know everything in our subconscious, maybe not from the moment we're born, but by the time our brain is fully mature physically at least. Whatever happens to us and whatever we learn just takes the knowledge from the subconscious to the conscious and moves something from the conscious back to the subconscious (like not remembering stuff from childhood clearly). Schala, according to this, has certain areas of her subconscious in her conscious, and Kid with other areas. Memories, as far as I'm concerned with this, are just combinations of the knowledge. Although I know nothing technical, in my theorizing I think we know EVERYTHING, including what'll happen in the future, subconsciously. Seeing into the future isn't such a big thing, just as seing tons of gray clouds in the sky and guessing that a storm's coming isn't such a big deal; everything we do forces others to act in certain ways in a giant chain-reaction... Anyway, both Schala's and Kid's memories are in both of their subconsciouses, and once they reunite both areas of thier subconscious are conscious


I guess a lot of that is abstract, hypothetical, and off-topic, but I feel like it'd be a waste for me to have written that and then deleted it <_<

[V_Translanka]

"Clone" is misused in this game, it should be something along the lines of "avatar."

Misused as in 'it should be in the Japanese version" or simply misused the way you see it? They say clone, they don't really hint that by clone they mean anything but clone, so here I think it's safe to take it as it is said...

But it's designed to be tragic.

If it was designed that way, it would be more apparent that it actually happened that way...

Think of it like this: You grow to be 18 (or however old Schala is), then lose your entire memory. For the next 18 years you begin to get new memories, but once you reach 36 you regain all your old memories... This is how I think of Schala/Kid.. I don't think their bodies actually 'merge', but that Schala's original body is beat up and ruined, if not lost, from being a part of the TD; however, Kid regains the memories of Schala and thus 'merges' with her..

Ok, now I'm going to get into abstract ideals.

Now? When were you speaking concretely?

I believe that we know everything in our subconscious, maybe not from the moment we're born, but by the time our brain is fully mature physically at least. Whatever happens to us and whatever we learn just takes the knowledge from the subconscious to the conscious and moves something from the conscious back to the subconscious (like not remembering stuff from childhood clearly). Schala, according to this, has certain areas of her subconscious in her conscious, and Kid with other areas. Memories, as far as I'm concerned with this, are just combinations of the knowledge. Although I know nothing technical, in my theorizing I think we know EVERYTHING, including what'll happen in the future, subconsciously. Seeing into the future isn't such a big thing, just as seing tons of gray clouds in the sky and guessing that a storm's coming isn't such a big deal; everything we do forces others to act in certain ways in a giant chain-reaction... Anyway, both Schala's and Kid's memories are in both of their subconsciouses, and once they reunite both areas of thier subconscious are conscious

So, your belief is that the human brain has the ability to calculate chaos, huh? I don't think so...

[Zaperking]

Schala's body was not battered because she was inside that shield. And if it was, the Chrono Cross fixed it up. After her time in the DBT, she became enlightened, talking about evolution and how everything struggles to survive. If Kid and Schala do not remerge, or Schala get's back that piece of Kid, Schala will never be complete. Schala has lost that part of her soul... The good part of her soul... And when we look at Kid, she is always hot tempered, and angry. Where is this good part of her? It's not being used. So maybe either that piece goes back to Schala, or in the end, they have to remerge because Kid and Schala are the same age, same look, and in the ending, it looks like Kid is wearing Schala's dress... And Kid was only ever at that beach. Where is Schala if that's Kid? Or where is Kid if thats Schala? Why isn't there Kid and Schala in the photo with Serge??? How mysterious.

[Chrono'99]

Argh, but that's just it!  Kid isn't just some missing piece!  She is a fully-realized individual with a personality and feelings and dreams entirely unique and separate from those of Schala.  She's not a puppet, and she's not just a false face.  Kid had a whole life with Lucca and a tragic sort of love with Serge.  If Kid is "merged" with Schala, and Kid no longer exists as herself, it's as if her life was stolen from her.  Just because Schala allowed Kid to exist doesn't mean that Schala has a right to steal Kid's life, and I don't believe that Schala WOULD steal Kid's life.

I realize that the points made to the contrary have been good ones, and I really can't argue them based upon any bit of evidence proivded by Cross.  All I can say is that, to me personally, the idea of Kid merely being "reincorporated" into Schala is abhorrent, and I simply choose to reject it.

OdF

However, you could also look at it with a "RD" point of view: let's just say that in the DBT, Schala is dead. That's it, she doesn't really live in it anyway, she's unconscious and integrated in some dead creature (Lavos) and some organic machine (Dragon God). Kid then would not just be her physical clone but also her reincarnation, sort of (as in RD), seeing as how Schala is dead/non-alive and Kid was created out of her will.

Schala does re-live a bit during the ending, but that's in the DBT, not really a real place to begin with. Could be like Schala is Kid's previous karmic incarnation or something. Schala and Kid then wouldn't really merge but just realize that they are the same person(s), one being the previous life of the other (that sounds Hinduist/Buddhic...).

The CT ghosts speeches about "saving Schala" could then be interpreted as "give Kid back her soul" or "let Schala fully revive (through Kid)" or something.

In a different but comparable way, Serge did experience dying drowned and being rescued at the same time when the dimensions split (one Serge mind/memory for two Serge bodies).

I'm not saying this interpretation is valid, but I think it's a possible way of looking at it without (totally) rejecting what the game states, and what the game leaves open.

So maybe either that piece goes back to Schala, or in the end, they have to remerge because Kid and Schala are the same age, same look, and in the ending, it looks like Kid is wearing Schala's dress... And Kid was only ever at that beach.

I got the impression that chronologically, the scenes with Schala/Kid wandering some city and standing at that beach happen before the photo is taken.

[Zaperking]

Probably, just in the end, no matter what, Schala "Kid" Zeal is there with Serge in that photo.

[V_Translanka]

Serge my ass!

[CatchRBFivy]

Seeing into the future isn't such a big thing, just as seing tons of gray clouds in the sky and guessing that a storm's coming isn't such a big deal; everything we do forces others to act in certain ways in a giant chain-reaction...

Wait a minute.  Our brains would have to be fused with every other brain on the entire planet and have teh calculating abilities of NASA's most expensive computers to be able to successfully realize the consequences of each split in a chain to follow the right path and correctly fortell teh future?  Get it?  Each choice makes a split in the chain (kinda like the dimension split) and each choice leads to more choices, then you add in EVERYONE ELSE'S choices and you get this whole mess or links and chains and crap.  All in all, wrong theory about human knowledge.

Serge my ass!

AMEN!