Does the Entity exist?

[Chrono'99]

It's not figurative, the "planet's dream" thing is the planet's wish and the "cogs of fate" thing is FATE's control over the world. It's just that at the beginning of the game nobody knows that FATE is a computer and not a metaphysical concept (FATE and Fate are two spellings for the same stuff for them), and that the world that FATE is controlling is actually just El Nido.

[AuraTwilight]

Exactly what I was trying to say.

[Zaperking]

Go Figure >.>
There's no proof to that. I'd rather say it's a metaphor talking about the real Fate, since it's half talking about whats been going on in time and why it's been like that.

And it more like seems that FATE has only ever fully controlled about 5 people's lives. Wazuki's, Miguel's, That Arni poet girl (she never left El Nido), That Arni Chef dude. Anyone from Porre was never stopped in coming or leaving El Nido.

Oh, And the Planet has no wish. It's dying and dreaming. Don't know how far to the past it's dreaming. Maybe the dream never stopped at 1000AD and will never be released from the dream until it dreams of 1999AD again and that is when Lavos doesn't appear... The planet should have nothing to do with CC. It has the littlest of appearance. There's only a few things on it, like it summoning in Dinopolis and it's wrath. What kind of a grateful planet decides that it hates humans (as said by the Dragon God/Aquaterra or whatever). I'd say the planet is loco. It summoned Dinopolis for no reason, only to have countless slaughtered and then possibly the demi-humans were created by dragon/human intercorse. The planet is being very wreckless.

Oh and remember Magus summoning Lavos? If he had succeeded, then the planet would be about 700 years dead in 2300AD. The reason things like that were prevented in the first places were things like Fate in general. And the second time around, Fate wanted Crono and co to stop it

[GrayLensman]

Oh and remember Magus summoning Lavos? If he had succeeded, then the planet would be about 700 years dead in 2300AD. The reason things like that were prevented in the first places were things like Fate in general. And the second time around, Fate wanted Crono and co to stop it

Why assume that Lavos would destroy the world in 600 AD if Magus successfully summoned it?  Most likely, Lavos arose in 1999 AD because it had superior resources, was tactically significant, or due to its reproductive cycle.  If Magus summoned Lavos to 600 AD, which would probably happen without interference from the time travellers, Lavos would only remain long enough to destroy the threat, like it did to Zeal in 12,000 BC, before returning to the earth until its appointed time to emerge in 1999 AD.

[Zaperking]

Lavos destroyed Zeal because he was awakened.. If he was awakened again, he'd destroy the world and go back under again..

[V_Translanka]

Lavos destroyed Zeal because they were ufcking w/him. Why would he destroy stuff just because he's 'awakened'? Seems like it'd just be a waste of energy.

[Zaperking]

What energy would he lose? What? 0.00000000000000000000000001% of all his energy? Pfft >.>

And he's losing energy anyway. Like when Magus' attempt caused that huge gate to open, the energy caused by Lavos' energy possible. I mean, If Lavos was truely summoned, he'd have come out of the PD forcefully, then he'd be pissed.

[V_Translanka]

Well...it's been proposed that the giganto gate wasn't Lavos at all...but the Entity or a malfunctioning summoning by Magus...and I still think that it'd be possible for that gate to have occurred w/or w/out Crono & Co's interference...

[Zaperking]

The Magus would have ended up somewhere.

And I completely ignore anyone who says "The Entity did it" or the planet did it. Hello... The planet is dying... From 1000AD, it only has like another 2000 years to live. And even when Lavos does die, he still died with 65 million years or more worth of energy of the planets. It can never get that back, and it'll probably take eons to regain it..

And I just realized. Because there is more than one dimension, with the same planet/entity, it pretty much makes the planet seem as insignificant as every double of each character in each dimension.

[Sentenal]

Magus mostly likely DIED when we originally summoned Lavos.

Zaper, it wasn't Lavos sucking the planets energy that was killing the Entity.  IMO, the entity was fine during the time before 1999.  But when Lavos erupted, and he unleashed his rain from the heavens, the world was virtually destroyed.  THATS what made the Entity start to die.

[SilentMartyr]

The Magus would have ended up somewhere.

And I completely ignore anyone who says "The Entity did it" or the planet did it. Hello... The planet is dying... From 1000AD, it only has like another 2000 years to live. And even when Lavos does die, he still died with 65 million years or more worth of energy of the planets. It can never get that back, and it'll probably take eons to regain it..

And I just realized. Because there is more than one dimension, with the same planet/entity, it pretty much makes the planet seem as insignificant as every double of each character in each dimension.

Ignorance is bliss.

[Zaperking]

Magus mostly likely DIED when we originally summoned Lavos.

Zaper, it wasn't Lavos sucking the planets energy that was killing the Entity.  IMO, the entity was fine during the time before 1999.  But when Lavos erupted, and he unleashed his rain from the heavens, the world was virtually destroyed.  THATS what made the Entity start to die.

Why would the entity die of that? All Lavos did was pretty much scar it's surface, the crust. If that was all, it'd regenerate in time. But it can't cuz it's low on energy >.<

[Sentenal]

Proof?  1000ad has a lush enviorment, large forests, clean oceans, and thriving civilization.  And 1999 looked pretty much the same till Lavos erupted.  The planet was fine till that point.  Then Lavos erupted.  The planet is basically defoliated.  You can't regrow if there is nothing left.  The planet was doomed the second Lavos erupted and unleashed the Rain of Destruction.  You say you always go for explicit in game evidence; Is this not explicit enough?

[Burning Zeppelin]

But right before it was destroyed, you see 1999 have all these domed buildings, which show increase in technology. This could mean that they were over using fossil fuels and the likes

[ZeaLitY]

Domed cities means technology that uses fuel cells and nanomachines. I doubt pollution was a problem in that era.