Does the Entity exist?

[Sentenal]

[for the existence of the gates ive always blamed it on lavos, as for where they take you to, i had a theory on that but ive forgot.[

Right, because Lavos wants to die at the hands of three kids, a frog, a cavewomn, a robot, and a pissed off wizard.  That's why it created the Gates in just the exact times and places that would facilitate its own end.  Good point  

It's possible he didn;t do it on purpose.  I mean, a guy who exists in his own dimension separate from time crashing into the Earth at God knows how much force is bound to create some sort of after-shock effects outside of their own strict control.

Few gates where there originally.  The only ones I can think of right off my head were the ones the threw Janus and the Gurus into the future.  This was caused by screwing up the Mamon Machine, in combination to Lavos being out of his Pocket Dimension.

The other gates were created later on.  There was no Mamon Machine to upset Lavos.  Unless you want to believe that all the gates just happend to appear all over, popping up by mere chance, guiding them on their path to defeat Lavos, its safer to safer to say that they were deliberatly created.

[Zaperking]

The 65,000,000BC gate would have always been there, in a sence if the entitiy didn't make them.

[Sentenal]

the Telepod? The Pendant.

In combination with the entity.  Pendant+Telepod didn't create the gate, they just opened them.  The Entity created the gate, allowing the pendant+telepod to open it up.

[ZeaLitY]

The Entity speculation also does not appear out of nowhere. It is simply the next evolution of a loong (by CT's standards) piece of speculation and deduction. This is its root:

Marle: Th, there's a Gate!

Lucca: Why is there a Gate here?!

Robo: A Gate has formed!

Frog: 'Tis a Gate?

Ayla: Lavos very fast!
   Deep under earth already.

Marle: This Gate was made by
   Lavos.
   Maybe Lavos is the source of all
   Gates?

Lucca: Now I understand!
   The immense energy that Lavos
   gives off alters time and creates
   Gates.

Robo: It appears that the immense
   energy that Lavos radiates alters
   time and creates Gates.

Frog: M, mayhap Lavos be the
   cause of this warp?

   The one in Magus's Castle was
   immense.

Ayla: What wrong, Crono?
   Fight Lavos!
   Go in here.
   Yes?

The fact that Robo is directly questioning the validity of these earlier claims and proposing a model to exist in its place is serious business by RPG standards, for this reason:

64# Nostradamus Rule
All legends are 100% accurate. All rumors are entirely factual. All prophecies will come true, and not just someday but almost immediately.

While admittedly, this is what makes Lucca's error in citing the Grandfather Paradox so troublesome, it stands that in this world of limited text and NPCs, almost everything that comes out of a person's mouth is true or expands on the plot in some degree. The guy in the Truce Inn who talks about a recent earthquake is a leftover from the Prerelease, but even he's true -- in the Prerelease, Zenan Bridge in modern times had been gutted by a quake. The same goes for the guy who says he saw a monster tearing up Fiona's Forest. At times, these small details provide great insight into the plot; by merely three small utterances in Chrono Cross, we know that Guardia is almost totally back up on its feet (though embroiled in conflict) after the events of 1005 A.D., and may even pose a threat to Porre.

Now, when a player character says something, you know it's important. The argument itself, the Entity proposal, and the line about it resting at the end of the game are too numerous to ignore. Additionally, the Gates are begging intelligent design. They each lead to a tumultuous era in the planet's history - ones that have much to do with Lavos. While it can be inferred that Lavos created the Gates in these eras through this activity, one must ask why Gates exist in 1000 A.D. and in 2300 A.D.? Melchior was thrown to the present age, but Lavos has no direct activity here to create a Gate. Rather, this is the era in which the savior of the planet lives. 2300 A.D. also affords Belthasar and his creations, while Lavos and his temporal energies are dormant as his spawn prepare to leave the earth.

Lastly, the Japanese version should cap the argument. A dareka (someone) does receive much mention in the game, and alongside that is frequent mention (for instance, atop the Tyrano Lair) of a Planet God or Mother Earth Deity. We still don't have that final 1% - a direct linkage of the Entity to the planet god, or a statement that it does exist - but the other 99% more than accounts for it, especially due to the medium - an RPG, in which designers have to pack as much plot as possible in the smallest space given to them.

[Zaperking]

2 Things:

1. Anyone ever thought that the pendant caused the reaction because it's connected to Lavos, who's connected in all times. So the pendant just went back to a time where Lavos was summoned (by Magus) or was about to?

2. I hate it when peolpe simply say that the Entity "did it" when theres a casual loop or something.

[V_Translanka]

The theory of Lavos creating the gates unintentionally, aside from being based on a fair amount of rediculous bad coincidence on Lavos' part, does not account for the Red Gate.

[kazmaka]

The theory of Lavos creating the gates unintentionally, aside from being based on a fair amount of rediculous bad coincidence on Lavos' part, does not account for the Red Gate.

that is true, the red gate is a very peculiar phenemon though, it has its own time era which is exactly when lucca desires it to be, you must blame the existence of the gate at least 50% on lucca's powerful desire to go back and save her mum, i always find the entity as just an easy excuse to use for the gates and such, but it does save us trying to think of numerous ways of how such things as the red gate occured.

[V_Translanka]

I don't see it as an "easy excuse" just the best plausible answer. The easiest solution is often the right one.

[kazmaka]

fair point, but what i mean by easy excuse is that it needs almost no explaining, the entity can do what it likes because it IS the ENTITY, so if we say the entity made the gates thats all you need to say.

[V_Translanka]

Well, the explaining comes from the evidence, the motive, and the plausibility...It's just like a crime!

[kazmaka]

theres my point! right there! thats why i hate using the entity as a reason for anything.

[V_Translanka]

What do you mean? Being the planet, it has the most motive to make the gates, thus having Crono & Co. swing around time, and thus defeat Lavos...Yeah? What has more motive than the planet?

[kazmaka]

why dont you think of something wild and extravagant like you usually do   thats always fun.

[Legend of the Past]

He's not thinking complex, you're thinking simpley. Seriously, how stupid can you get? The Planet wants Lavos dead, so it opens Gate. The Planet want Lucca to feel that she didn't fail her mother, so she can become more powerful to defeat Lavos. It's the Planet, period. The game mentions it. You're just so stuck up on your theories your refuse to look at any other theories. Accept the fact you don't know everything. Even if you're right, if everyone says you're wrong and everything points to the point you're wrong, you're wrong. Seriously, you're talking to people who've been thinking this two years.

[Zaperking]

Lol.

Personally, I don't like the theory that much. I mean, you may have thought of a theory, but then you think up of others. And then in certain places, they clash. Hence came the Grandfather paradox.

Anyway, I see the Planet as the entity, though I don't think it made all the gates. I think it definatly made the Red Gate. They were talking about the entity just a few moments before it appeared, coincidence?
Gaspar said that by having so many people popping through gates, the time space continuim would be destroyed. I don't think the entity would risk that.
After thinking about what Lavos tried to do with the time crash, I started thinking that the gates were all leading to a time where Lavos had alot of influence, except 1000AD.
65,000,000BC - Lavos lands. Pocket dimension created. Incase Lavos dies and needs a fail safe, he can (for example) drag the FF back to here, had he not left it.
12,000BC- Lavos first appears out of his pocket dimension, starting a new one. This is the new fail safe incase he needs a back up plan.
600AD- Lavos is summoned by Magus, but not out of his pocket dimension. Since this is an important time in Lavos' history, a gate is formed.
1000AD- Gate simply caused by 1. Melchior being gated 2. The pendant reacting with a call back or something through time.
1999AD- A time when Lavos exits his pocket dimension for good, but it's still left open. Since the gate leads to seconds before he comes out, then the gate may have been created during leave of his pocket dimension.
2400AD- This gate may have been caused by the entity for certain reasons, because it wanted to show Crono and co their future.

Thoughts?