Does the Entity exist?

[Sentenal]

1) you only read the bits of what i say that interest yourself.
2) you dont understand english.

I'm just gonna giggle at the irony here.

Yeah, me too.  I'll just ignore this guys posts.  Its not like hes says anything worth while anyway.

[Silvercry]

i get your point the entity is the only explanation that fills all the holes, so to say, but although any other theory is much less likely i personally cannot and will not believe there is an entity until you physically see it or its definite effect, it goes against all my personal beliefs, so no, cant do it.

And again I say:  The presence of Dinopolis in 7600 BC is all the proof you need.  The game tells you, in no uncertain terms, that the planet brought it back, and we can all agree that if the entity does exists, it is the planet, right?

And if a ten-year-old old 16-bit game can violate all your ‘personal beliefs’, you might want to re-evaluate the strength of said beliefs.

[ZeaLitY]

2. I hate it when peolpe simply say that the Entity "did it" when theres a casual loop or something.

Yeah. Considering we've used that explanation a whopping total of 1 times.

[Legend of the Past]

...Which would be the one thing our sciencetific theories coulden't prove. Like in religion, if you don't believe science did it, you can believe God did it. And don't start mocking things like that. I'll get the desire to beat you to a bloody pulp if you would.

And if a ten-year-old old 16-bit game can violate all your ‘personal beliefs’, you might want to re-evaluate the strength of said beliefs.

It's 32 Bit, but that's not the point here. If you think the game dosen't match your beliefs, just say: "I don't get this game" and be rid of this otherwise wortless waste of time. You may not like the game, but some people understand that it needs to be analyzed without considering your beliefs so much. If you believe in God, you can say that the entity is God. If you believe in science, you can say it's some sort of alien life-form. But there's no need to say that if defies your beliefs as such. Just because it defies your beliefs, dosen't mean it dosen't make sense to someone else. Or in your case, anybody else.

[kazmaka]

1) you only read the bits of what i say that interest yourself.
2) you dont understand english.

I'm just gonna giggle at the irony here.

explain to me why.

And again I say: The presence of Dinopolis in 7600 BC is all the proof you need. The game tells you, in no uncertain terms, that the planet brought it back, and we can all agree that if the entity does exists, it is the planet, right?

so you know that the planet thought, o look chronopolis has been pulled back, lets have a good laugh and bring dinopolis back too.

And if a ten-year-old old 16-bit game can violate all your ‘personal beliefs’, you might want to re-evaluate the strength of said beliefs.

thankyou for calling everyone in this forum a 10 year old, and why would that mean i should re-evaulaute my beliefs, legend imagine a game which said it is absolutely impossible for a god in any way to exist ever, would you go along with that theory? for me the theory of an entity that you can never interact with is ridicolous.
and if that idea doesnt float your boat, then imagine the camp scene a little diferent, robo says he thinks there is an entity, instead of everyone agreeing, they disagree and call his idea riduculous, he has no evidence and can get no evidence there is an almighty entity leading them on so his theory is not worth thinking about, would you not think, pfft these guys are just fools? or would you see yeah that sounds fine to me?

[V_Translanka]

Ah, so much stupid...so little time...let's see if I can't work it in bits, shall we?

First, the most obvious mistakes...

And if a ten-year-old old 16-bit game can violate all your ‘personal beliefs’, you might want to re-evaluate the strength of said beliefs.

It's 32 Bit, but that's not the point here.

thankyou for calling everyone in this forum a 10 year old

Silvercry is obviously talking about Chrono Trigger in that part of his post. See how Chrono Trigger is both 10 YEARS OLD (not in reference to anyone in the forum!) and how it's 16-Bit? Yeah...I guess I can see how you might miss it cause he was talking about CC at first...but still, misinterpreting that 10 year old thing seems rediculous...

1) you only read the bits of what i say that interest yourself.
2) you dont understand english.

I'm just gonna giggle at the irony here.

explain to me why.

I'm going to pick this one up for ya Aura...by using another oddly ironic quote from the 'kaz-man'...

why dont you think of something wild and extravagant like you usually do thats always fun.

And that was actually directed at me! Can you believe it? Okay...well anyways...I'm done for now...It seems like I did my fair share of quoting!

[kazmaka]

that was not directed at you, it was wasnt directed, fine i missed the point about the 10 year old, easy to make when all you get is abuse from you people.

[Legend of the Past]

A good 32 game bit that's ten-years-old can cause everyone on an entire forum turn against a stubborn user? Behold the power of Chrono Trigger.

[kazmaka]

btw legend i think u missed this bit of my post so ill say it again, must of edited after you read it, or i edited the wrong post, cant even remember what i was doing

and if that idea doesnt float your boat, then imagine the camp scene a little diferent, robo says he thinks there is an entity, instead of everyone agreeing, they disagree and call his idea riduculous, he has no evidence and can get no evidence there is an almighty entity leading them on so his theory is not worth thinking about, would you not think, pfft these guys are just fools? or would you see yeah that sounds fine to me?

[V_Translanka]

Uh...what is that even in reference to? Because it doesn't really make any sense as is...

[Legend of the Past]

No, we'd actually consider Robo's theory, but agree that it sound a bit absurd. Why? Because WE believe there is an entity out there pulling the strings. It makes sense to us, dosen't it? Plus, not everything should be blamed on Lavos. Espically with Cross constantly poiting at the Planet as a living thing with loads of power itself.

[kazmaka]

Well I dont believe their is an entity, as i said, robo's theory sounds absurd to me. Your not gonna tell a christian he/she shoudlnt believe in God because you think its stupid, and not many people would tell someone to believe in God because the idea there isnt a God is absurd to them.

[SilentMartyr]

Well I dont believe their is an entity, as i said, robo's theory sounds absurd to me. Your not gonna tell a christian he/she shoudlnt believe in God because you think its stupid, and not many people would tell someone to believe in God because the idea there isnt a God is absurd to them.

Hmm, there is something off about this statement, let me just figure it out... 1 sec...

Ok, I have one question for you. Why would the developers put that whole scene in there if the theory is bunk (bunk=not true)? It seems to me like a total waste of time, since that is basically the major point of Fiona's Sidequest. Sure you can save Lucca's Mom from the leg eater, but thats not even a garuntee. The point of that sidequest is for Robo t point out that theory. And plus even IF you don't do that sidequest at all, Lucca rementions the theory at the end of the game.

Lucca: I thought Lavos made the
   Gates...
   But I guess I was wrong.

Marle: What do you mean?

Lucca: I think a greater force
   wanted us to experience those
   events.

Whether you want to believe it or not, the game mentions the theory no matter what. If you don't want to believe that, you might as well stop believing anything in the game that is not fully explained.

[Silvercry]

thankyou for calling everyone in this forum a 10 year old, and why would that mean i should re-evaulaute my beliefs, legend imagine a game which said it is absolutely impossible for a god in any way to exist ever, would you go along with that theory? for me the theory of an entity that you can never interact with is ridicolous.

Well, in Xenogears, you in effect, kill 'God'.  'He' is the final boss.  And you know what?  I was fine with that, as were a bunch of my Christian friends.

And my point to suggesting that you should re-evaluate you own beliefs is this:

Chrono Trigger and its (in my opinion, inferior) sequel Chrono Cross are great games.  But in the end, that is all they are: mere video games.  Fictional, somewhat interactive tales, a digital version of those old choose your own adventure books I used to read when I was a kid.  Entertainment, nothing more.  As such, why would a fictional tale bother your core beliefs so much?  I’m not Christian,  but I thoroughly enjoy the Left Behind series of books, even though according to them, I’m going to hell.  On the flipside, I am wiccan, however I also enjoy the Harry Potter books/movies, even though they pervert just about everything I hold as sacred when it comes to the subject of magick (and that spelling was intentional).  How is such as thing possible?  Because I am confident enough in my beliefs that the fictional works of a couple pf preachers (the authors of Left Behind), some British twit (J.K. Rollings, author of Harry Potter), or a room filled with Japanese script writers (responsible for the plot for Trigger and Cross) cannot shake them.  The same cannot be said for you, since by your own words:

 

i personally cannot and will not believe there is an entity until you physically see it or its definite effect, it goes against all my personal beliefs, so no, cant do it.

Thusly, I can only conclude, that your are not confident in your beliefs.  Therefore, you should re-evaluate them.

And again I say: The presence of Dinopolis in 7600 BC is all the proof you need. The game tells you, in no uncertain terms, that the planet brought it back, and we can all agree that if the entity does exists, it is the planet, right?

so you know that the planet thought, o look chronopolis has been pulled back, lets have a good laugh and bring dinopolis back too.

Yeah, pretty much.  Only the thought was more like:  “Curses! My age-old foe, whom I thought I had bested at long last, has called his champion race to his aid at the height of their power (Humans, and their future city of Chronopolis).  All I have done shall be for naught (ie: all the events of Chrono Trigger) unless I act swiftly!  And behold!  I see the future as it should have been!  The Reptites evolved into a race every bit the equal of humans!  What is more, they understand and respect the world they live on, the physical manifestation of my very self!  I will call these great beings to my aid.  I can only hope it will be enough…”

Seriously, did you even play this game?  C’mom man, I was on pain killers when I played Chrono Cross, and even I got the message clearly when I wasn’t marveling at the trails I was seeing every time a character moved (slight exaggeration, but you get my point).

[Legend of the Past]

Her name is Rowling, not Rollings. But that's besides the point.

I am confident enough in my beliefs that the fictional works of a couple pf preachers (the authors of Left Behind), some British twit (J.K. Rollings, author of Harry Potter), or a room filled with Japanese script writers (responsible for the plot for Trigger and Cross) cannot shake them.

Amen to that.