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« Reply #60 on: August 18, 2005, 06:05:44 pm »
and yet we're talking in a game forum, wise-ass. as for science, that's also irrellevant with Y'know, God and miracles >_> Virgin Birth=asexual child with different genes. WEEEEE! The same goes for Lavos. He collects DNA from the planet, and gives birth to a new generation of genetically diverse Lavoids. Weee again.

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« Reply #61 on: August 18, 2005, 06:10:55 pm »
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and yet we're talking in a game forum, wise-ass. as for science, that's also irrellevant with Y'know, God and miracles >_> Virgin Birth=asexual child with different genes. WEEEEE!


Still sexual reproduction. Even if intercourse does not occur, the fact is, gametes from two individuals fused into a single cell and began to divide. So it was still sexual reproduction.

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« Reply #62 on: August 18, 2005, 07:04:44 pm »
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and yet we're talking in a game forum, wise-ass.

More precisely, we're talking in a Robo topic, Aura.

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« Reply #63 on: August 18, 2005, 07:45:15 pm »
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More precisely, we're talking in a Robo topic, Aura.


Yeah, I think I must read all 5 pages to understand how you got here, since you started discussing Robo.  :lol:

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« Reply #64 on: August 18, 2005, 10:55:51 pm »
I don't think God has gametes -_-

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« Reply #65 on: August 18, 2005, 11:14:48 pm »
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I don't think God has gametes -_-


Do you think Jesus was missing half his chromasomes? If not, then it follows pretty logically that God made some gametes and sent them to work. Assuming, of course, that you believe in immacualte conception.

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« Reply #66 on: August 19, 2005, 01:12:35 am »
I posted earlier but I guess it didnt' work.

There is no possible way that Jesus was in anyway born from an aesexual reproductive method.  The reasons are obvious.  For one, Jesus is male.  If Mary had reproduced aesexually then there wouldn't be any Jesus.  This is true because women, like Mary, only have one type of sex chromosome, X, in case you didn't know.  So if you drew a punnet square and all the gametes were Mary's, then you would have XX x XX which is going to have 4 combinations.  However, all of them will be XX.  Go draw it yourself to see it if yuo have too.

Oh and Aura, did you ever actually see Lavos produce offspring?  No, yuo did not.  Then how could you assume he "selfs"?  The lavos spawns looks the exact same way lavos doesj ust smaller.  The most logical form of Lavos' reproduction would be spudding off smaller lavos, either from the Lavos core or from the shell.  Its probably the shell.  You could actually make a theory about it, if yuo beleive that death mountain is lavos' shell, because thats where most of the spawns are.  They may have spudded off the shell/mountain and are growing up off the corpse of lavos.

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« Reply #67 on: August 19, 2005, 12:26:26 pm »
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Do you think Jesus was missing half his chromasomes? If not, then it follows pretty logically that God made some gametes and sent them to work. Assuming, of course, that you believe in immacualte conception.


I always figured that God was showing off, to be perfectly honest. Bleh, Why are we arguing this? I'm not even Christian. >_>

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There is no possible way that Jesus was in anyway born from an aesexual reproductive method. The reasons are obvious. For one, Jesus is male. If Mary had reproduced aesexually then there wouldn't be any Jesus. This is true because women, like Mary, only have one type of sex chromosome, X, in case you didn't know. So if you drew a punnet square and all the gametes were Mary's, then you would have XX x XX which is going to have 4 combinations. However, all of them will be XX. Go draw it yourself to see it if yuo have too.


of course there's no "possible" way, it was a divine act. Do you think God came down and slept with Mary or something or injected a sperm missle into her gut?

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Oh and Aura, did you ever actually see Lavos produce offspring? No, yuo did not. Then how could you assume he "selfs"? The lavos spawns looks the exact same way lavos doesj ust smaller. The most logical form of Lavos' reproduction would be spudding off smaller lavos, either from the Lavos core or from the shell. Its probably the shell. You could actually make a theory about it, if yuo beleive that death mountain is lavos' shell, because thats where most of the spawns are. They may have spudded off the shell/mountain and are growing up off the corpse of lavos.


Well, seeing as we KNOW Lavos was collecting DNA for his Spawn, yea, Genetic Diversity. And Lavos didn't get down with every lifeform on the planet, I'm sure. Although that would be hawt. ANYWAY, as a matter of fact, I do have a theory about that. I always figured that destruction from the heavens is Lavos seeding his children across the globe, and each scale has been loaded with a piece of the core, causing Lavos to die and become an empty shell-Death Peak- where the Spawn will devour any remaining energy left, get to the top of the peak, and launch off to other planets.

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« Reply #68 on: August 19, 2005, 12:41:59 pm »
That's a pretty good theory, except for one problem. Lavos can use his DrftH attack for as much as he likes, and unless you hurt him, he's quiet alive. Plus, if that would be so, Lavos uses there are still Lavos Spawns, at least one. But is the future world destroyed? Dame.

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« Reply #69 on: August 19, 2005, 12:50:46 pm »
Yea, but the ones he uses as an attack in battle don't go allllll overrrrr the earrrrrth, and it's safe to assume they don't contain his genes.

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« Reply #70 on: August 19, 2005, 01:08:48 pm »
Why is it safe to assume that? You can't know that.

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« Reply #71 on: August 19, 2005, 01:23:36 pm »
I've heard theories about Mary's immaculate conception.  And one of them is that Mary was actually an XXY or an XY.

Now before you blast me for using th XY theory, keep in mind its very possible for a a girl to have an XY.  Some girls actually turn INTO boys in their teenage years.  Let me explain.

First off, the Y is just more of an instructional gene.  It activates testosterone, which then starts the development of male genitalia, etc.  However, if there is not enough testosterone in the moter's uterus (which happens sometimes after giving birth to another male) then the Y is basically ignored, and just keeps the child as the "default", which is a female.  Child is born, has a vagina, etc.  Now, when the child hits puberty, all of a sudden, a large amount of testosterone is being produced.  NOW the Y chromosome activates, and the child actually starts growing a penis, and turns into a legit male.  

So I've heard variations of this theory to support that Mary might have been something along these lines, which then would someho support asexual reproduction by a female to produce a male, and therefore Immaculate Conception.

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« Reply #72 on: August 19, 2005, 01:33:39 pm »
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I've heard theories about Mary's immaculate conception.  And one of them is that Mary was actually an XXY or an XY.

Now before you blast me for using th XY theory, keep in mind its very possible for a a girl to have an XY.  Some girls actually turn INTO boys in their teenage years.  Let me explain.

First off, the Y is just more of an instructional gene.  It activates testosterone, which then starts the development of male genitalia, etc.  However, if there is not enough testosterone in the moter's uterus (which happens sometimes after giving birth to another male) then the Y is basically ignored, and just keeps the child as the "default", which is a female.  Child is born, has a vagina, etc.  Now, when the child hits puberty, all of a sudden, a large amount of testosterone is being produced.  NOW the Y chromosome activates, and the child actually starts growing a penis, and turns into a legit male.  

So I've heard variations of this theory to support that Mary might have been something along these lines, which then would someho support asexual reproduction by a female to produce a male, and therefore Immaculate Conception.


Great. Then how do you explain Jesus' brothers born by Mary and Joseph? He wasn't an only child, remember. Good grief, they even found Jesus' brother's coffin a year or two ago (or, at least, what very likely was it, for on it is inscribed 'James, the son of Joseph, brother of Jesus'... apparently, to put a brother's name was very rare.) So it is quite unlikely that Mary was anything of the sort.

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of course there's no "possible" way, it was a divine act. Do you think God came down and slept with Mary or something or injected a sperm missle into her gut?


Well, that IS how Herakles was born by Zeus and Alkaleme, or Vali the Avenger by Odin and some princess. The old polytheistic gods were, after all, very human. I suppose that is what makes Christianity different. That, and the fact that Jesus is not made but co-eternal with the Father, not greater nor lesser, not seperate yet distinct. The same could not be said of Vidar, or Herakles, or Perseus, or Sarpedon, or any other children of the gods in old myths.

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« Reply #73 on: August 19, 2005, 02:54:04 pm »
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Well, seeing as we KNOW Lavos was collecting DNA for his Spawn, yea, Genetic Diversity. And Lavos didn't get down with every lifeform on the planet, I'm sure. Although that would be hawt. ANYWAY, as a matter of fact, I do have a theory about that. I always figured that destruction from the heavens is Lavos seeding his children across the globe, and each scale has been loaded with a piece of the core, causing Lavos to die and become an empty shell-Death Peak- where the Spawn will devour any remaining energy left, get to the top of the peak, and launch off to other planets.


In the Japanese version of CT, Belthasar explains that the "Krakker" enemies in 2300 AD are actually Lavos' eggs, which will mature into spawn.  Zeality can confirm this.

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« Reply #74 on: August 19, 2005, 03:09:49 pm »
Woah, really? That's pretty awesome ._. I'm ashamed I didn't know that before.