Of Mystics and Demi-humans

[AuraTwilight]

They didn't worship Magus anyway. He was a hero to then like Cyrus was a hero to Glenn. Except less personal.

[Legend of the Past]

Oh, yes, walking around, chanting around his statue ISN'T worshiping.

[AuraTwilight]

*Shrug* I never visited Medina Square. I just went on to kick some Wizard Ass. But then again, these little guys did ditch Magus when you kick Ozzie's ass, so it can't be that great of a religion. When you finish that sidequest and they become peaceful, they still call themselves Mystics.

[Legend of the Past]

*Shrug* I never visited Medina Square. I just went on to kick some Wizard Ass. But then again, these little guys did ditch Magus when you kick Ozzie's ass, so it can't be that great of a religion. When you finish that sidequest and they become peaceful, they still call themselves Mystics.

Because they still worshiped Magus, in the past. Like with Jews. Jews are decided by blood and belief. If you don't believe in the OT, sure, you can say you're not a Jew, but you have Jew blood. Perhaps it's the same with them?

[AuraTwilight]

Eh. It's irrelevent. Mystics and Demi-humans are so interchangable that no one cares.

[Chrono'99]

Come on, you can't compare Jews with Mystics. Mystics aren't humans to begin with, regardless of their beliefs...

Eh. It's irrelevent. Mystics and Demi-humans are so interchangable that no one cares.

Mystics are able to use magic while Demi-Humans aren't. They aren't really interchangeable.

Perhaps the difference is there? Mystics would be Demi-Humans who can use magic?

[Legend of the Past]

Come on, you can't compare Jews with Mystics. Mystics aren't humans to begin with, regardless of their beliefs...

I'm not, I'M A JEW, AND I'M NOT A DEMI-HUMAN! What I meant is that some religions (Well, one) use blood to determine if you're a part of it or not.

Besides, if Mystics are equilvent to any real-world religion, they would have to be Islam.

[AuraTwilight]

Demi-Humans can use magic. They just don't know how, like humans. The whole Chronopolis dealio made them a bit dependant on Elements anyway. We don't know if htere's Demi-Humans out there with natural magic.

[Chrono'99]

Come on, you can't compare Jews with Mystics. Mystics aren't humans to begin with, regardless of their beliefs...

I'm not, I'M A JEW, AND I'M NOT A DEMI-HUMAN! What I meant is that some religions (Well, one) use blood to determine if you're a part of it or not.

I know I know, but in the case of the Mystics it's determined by species not (human) blood. A Jew can convert to another religion while a Mystic can't, he would still be a Dragon-Ball-esque Mystic.

Demi-Humans can use magic. They just don't know how, like humans. The whole Chronopolis dealio made them a bit dependant on Elements anyway. We don't know if htere's Demi-Humans out there with natural magic.

Mystics know how to use it, unlike humans. Although... I don't know know about Demi-Humans actually. Sprigg's Doppelgang might be natural magic.

[Legend of the Past]

Come on, you can't compare Jews with Mystics. Mystics aren't humans to begin with, regardless of their beliefs...

I'm not, I'M A JEW, AND I'M NOT A DEMI-HUMAN! What I meant is that some religions (Well, one) use blood to determine if you're a part of it or not.

I know I know, but in the case of the Mystics it's determined by species not (human) blood. A Jew can convert to another religion while a Mystic can't, he would still be a Dragon-Ball-esque Mystic.

Aren't all the Mystics from CT Dragon-Ball-esque? Oo

Sprigg's Doppelgang might be natural magic.

Yeap. Guile, Sprigg and Sneff are real magicians. Not trickmasters or anything.

[Chrono'99]

Sprigg's Doppelgang might be natural magic.

Yeap. Guile, Sprigg and Sneff are real magicians. Not trickmasters or anything.

The sad mystery is that we can't know if it means that Demi-Humans can use natural magic or if Guile's band is a very special case (it could be a left-over from the time when Guile was Magus)...

[Legend of the Past]

Sprigg's Doppelgang might be natural magic.

Yeap. Guile, Sprigg and Sneff are real magicians. Not trickmasters or anything.

The sad mystery is that we can't know if it means that Demi-Humans can use natural magic or if Guile's band is a very special case (it could be a left-over from the time when Guile was Magus)...

It probably is, Magus having some magician companions. However, if we'd ask Kato or somebody, he'll probably just drop it on the case of: "Yes, Mystic's know magic." but more in the form of: "Whatever. You guys think too much."

[Sentenal]

They were probably artifically evolved/created by Zealians.

Don't make me laugh. The Zealians are too egotistical to go around giving others magic. Even in small doses. While I could imagine Zeal creating a new race for bragging rights, I would imagine it wouldn't last very long.

Egoistical!?  Other than Queen Zeal and Dalton, everyone else seemed level headed/non-insane.  The Guru's and Schala were definately not like that.  And the only reason Queen Zeal was so egostical was Lavos' influence.  The first time we EVER see a mystic is on Mt. Woe.  It is quite probable that Zeal created them as guardians for it.

Here is where I think the Demi-Humans of CC came from: Dinopolis. My memory is fuzzy, but doesn't the game SAY they came from Dinopolis?

Doesn't this contradict your opinion of Zeal creating the Mystics? They can't be from both timelines. Dragonians know better than to mess with evolution. And Dinopolis, FYI, only brought Dragonians, which are extinct now. If Demi-Humans were from Dinopolis, I'm sure FATE would be destroying them for timeline consistency instead of keeping them in line with the Records of FATE.

Firstly: No, it doesn't contradict it.  Remmber, I don't think Mystics and Demi-Humans are the same species.  So Mystics being created by Zeal would be different than being evolved from Dragonians.

And guess what?  If they EVOLVED from Dragonians, they would be different species.  And for now, I'm going to look for a quote, or something, because I am relatively sure the game says they evolved from the Dragonians.  I'm not sure though.

[Zaperking]

Mystic's are different...

And besides the point, Magus' magic is branded as being "arcane". So does that mean Crono and co's magic is "arcane" too and the Mystic's simply have "magic".

[AuraTwilight]

Right. So Dragonians evolve into humanoids, animal anthros, and so forth within the span of 200 years. Yup. And just ignore the Demihumans working on Chronopolis. Yee-up.