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« Reply #45 on: August 19, 2005, 06:04:56 am »
I still don't think that staying w/a cart-based system was a bad idea. Nintendo made huge advancements in cart technology and that's not to be scoffed at...

Also, Sega was going to go out of business no-matter-what...although, really, they aren't technically out of business, they're just out of the console business...but anyways, what they did with the Dreamcast was serious stupidity...Gamers won't let you get away w/basically giving them free games like that...

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« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2005, 07:33:40 am »
I think for the sake of argument I'll disagree with all of those apart from number 3. Super Mario Sunshine was just a plain crap game. Bad gameplay, horrible horrible cameras, stupid story, bad level design, some of the music made me feel like I was in Paris, horrible voice acting, you could die during bonus levels, not to mention bugs here and there. The only things i can say that are good about it is that it had SUPERB visuals for a mario game, everything looked just great. Also, some of the audio was quite good, I enjoyed a few of the songs and most of the sound effects (minus any dialogue longer than two words, i'll just say again that it was horrible). I especially enjoyed the sounds the funny creatures made, most of all the sunflowers on the theme park level.

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« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2005, 08:33:08 am »
Whoa! Sorry SilentMartyr! I didnt realise about the memory card thing. Yes, it was supposed to be a pro.

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(My theory is, Microsoft followed Sony's path)


Personally, I dont belive this. Microsoft made the XBOX only cause the wanted MONEY! Its all about cash! Personally, I think that aside form Halo 1 & 2 and Fable, XBOX can go get screwed and be a pile of scrap shit.

And to add to the Halo topic, who here would like to see Halo Series on the PS2? Like if u are in my kinda case: Have a PS2 but no XBOX and love Halo.

No doubt some Halo Geeks would get all angry and try and bring it down. But i bet u lots of ppl would buy it if it came out for PS2.[/quote]

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« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2005, 01:16:21 pm »
There's one problem with Halo coming to any system other than XBox.

Microsoft owns Bungie, the company that makes it.  Are you going to see Mario on anything other than Nintendo?  Exact same thing.

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« Reply #49 on: August 20, 2005, 07:45:26 am »
FPSs don't translate too well to teh Sony systems...I wouldn't mind seeing Halo on PC though, I guess...It would happen, but then, why would you want an XBOX?

How the idea for the XBOX sprang forth...

Microsoft: Hey! Lookit all them companies making cash on the console market! They're even taking some of our games! I know! Let's take one of our PCs and call it a gaming console!

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« Reply #50 on: August 20, 2005, 09:26:59 am »
Errr, there is already a Halo PC version. :P

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« Reply #51 on: August 20, 2005, 06:12:33 pm »
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Whoa! Sorry SilentMartyr! I didnt realise about the memory card thing. Yes, it was supposed to be a pro.

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(My theory is, Microsoft followed Sony's path)


Personally, I dont belive this. Microsoft made the XBOX only cause the wanted MONEY! Its all about cash! Personally, I think that aside form Halo 1 & 2 and Fable, XBOX can go get screwed and be a pile of scrap shit.

And to add to the Halo topic, who here would like to see Halo Series on the PS2? Like if u are in my kinda case: Have a PS2 but no XBOX and love Halo.

No doubt some Halo Geeks would get all angry and try and bring it down. But i bet u lots of ppl would buy it if it came out for PS2.
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Hmm? Memory card thing? Ima confused.

I personally wouldn't buy Halo ever. Like I said its generously overrated, if I was released on the PS2 or GC without Xbox live it wouldn't have gotten the big press that it did.

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« Reply #52 on: August 20, 2005, 07:04:08 pm »
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3) Final Fantasy VIII, X-2, and arguably IX.  That's something of a diss against Square-Enix as well, but it remains a fact that for the most part, they're still entrenched with Sony.  This trend will only be reversed when the next-gen FF game appears on all three consoles.


Is that supposed to mean that FFVIII, X-2 and IX are considered failures? I agree with X-2 because they were probably just trying to milk money out of X's success, but I just don't see how VIII and IX are considered sony's third greatest failure. VIII definitely had some flaws, like all levels requiring the same amount of exp., the [SPOILER] "GFs make us lose memory.. oops, we used to be childhood friends, our greatest enemy led the orphanage we lived in, and our principle was her husband, but we don't remember any of it!" [SPOILER], and Squall's being 17 as Laguna is 27 (I won't provide any more spoiler stuff cuz this is rather big, but to those who've played it they should see why I'm disgusted)... But I just don't see what's wrong with FFIX. A lot of people seem to hate it, and I haven't gotten an answer from anyone as to why it's so bad. I, personally, dislike Halo, mainly because I feel that it's so overated, but I don't just say "HALO SUCKS", and then reply "IT JUST DOES" when asked why it does; however, this seems to be the situation for FFIX.. maybe you have your reasons, but it still bothers me that other people hate it for the sake of hating it, say it suck, and then force others to hate it just so that they'll have the same opinion as someone else

Anyway, on topic...


Hasn't Microsoft not made a profit from XBOX yet? I heard that whatever money they got has gone right back into it, or something like that...

Why are people complaining about disk sizes? Is it really that big of a deal if a game is on multiple discs? FFVII was on 3 discs, FFVIII and FFIX on 4, Baten Kaitos and Tales of Symphonia on 2, and as far as I know, it didn't make the games cost any more.

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« Reply #53 on: August 21, 2005, 05:37:11 am »
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Errr, there is already a Halo PC version.


Oh, I must not have noticed through all the better FPSs on PC...I stand by my comment...:P

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but then, why would you want an XBOX?


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Hmm? Memory card thing? Ima confused.


Lordchander was actually referring to Sentenal...

Basically Halo was for all the XBOX fans who didn't know that UT (or, dare I say it, CS) existed (or perhaps didn't have good enough computers?).

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« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2005, 06:45:02 am »
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Lordchander was actually referring to Sentenal...


Damn me, i wasn't thinking straight. It was almost midnight where I live so I was tired. Sorry all.

Man V_T, I am SHOCKED ( :shock: ) that u didnt know Halo was on PC!

I first played Halo 1 on the PC. Excpet I just cant really play PC games. I seem to be to close to the screen. Either that or the controls are difficult. Ive heard a mission in GTA San Andreas (PC) is impossible with one person playing because of the controls.

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« Reply #55 on: August 21, 2005, 06:56:19 am »
FFIX wasn't a bad game at all, but it didn't shine, like VI, VII, and X.  Basically, IX had old-school written all over it; not that this is a bad thing, it's just that I like to see new angles and new ways of doing things.  Of course, being new is not enough; quality is also an issue, and this was the case with VIII and X-2; VIII had a revolting combat system, and X-2 was simple inanity marketed as a Final Fantasy game.  The only possible reason to buy it is because they dress Yuna in skimpy clothing, and we have hentai for that.

Edit: Wow, I just noticed that I have the Glenn sprite.  It RULES.

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« Reply #56 on: August 21, 2005, 07:23:26 am »
Personally, I really dont see what is wrong with FFX-2, aside from having the worst storyline, its pretty good gameplay nonetheless, and it did spoil the series also, but other than that.

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« Reply #57 on: August 21, 2005, 11:33:13 am »
I wouldn't say FFX shined.  I played it.  I beat it.  It was good.  Not great.  FFIX was better.

And how was he refering to me about a memory card thing?  I'm confused now...

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« Reply #58 on: August 21, 2005, 03:50:01 pm »
Someone pointed out that someone else listed PS2's detachable memory cards as a con, now get over it, all of you!
Alright, Hadriel, I'm just glad to see that you don't hate FFIX.. But I really don't see why people consider FFIX like it's revisiting FFVI; the only 'old school' thing I noticed about it was the 4-person-party instead of 3-person-party... was there more that I was missing? I did feel that it was a sequel to FF1 (with the crystal thing and the fiends as bosses at the end), but not that it was trying to feel like FF1

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« Reply #59 on: August 21, 2005, 04:17:13 pm »
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the only 'old school' thing I noticed about it was the 4-person-party instead of 3-person-party... was there more that I was missing?


They were mainly re-visiting the old "Medieval, european, etc" theme, rather than the futuristic one they had gone with in 7 and 8, and then the rest of the series following.  Plus, they had TONS AND TONS of references to the old games.

Like remember when Kuja kicked Garland (name of King in ff1 I believe) off the top in Terra?  Reference to Kefka kicking Gesthal off the top of the floating island.  There were things like that all over the place, and those references are one of the reasons I loved the game.