Gaea's Navel

[Legend of the Past]

I've been to Chronopolis, and in one of the floors there's this floor-monitor, that if you click on the computer nearby, it switches between currect El-Nido and 2,400 A.D. El-Nido. Now, Gaea's Navel is there, In BOTH maps. Meaning it was there before the Time Crash... You think it's possible that maybe Chronopolis brought it back during their testings with the Flame?

[Sentenal]

You mean El Nido w/ Chronopolis, and pre-Chronopolis?  To my knowledge Gaia's Navel is the only part of El Nido that didn't come to be as a result of the Time Crash.

[Zaperking]

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Agreed.

And there was only ever one testing of the flame pretty much.

[Oswego del Fuego]

Yeah, it would make sense for Gaea's Navel to have always been there.  I mean, Leah is Ayla's mother, and she only decides what to name Ayla after her experiences at Gaea's Navel.  Thus, Gaea's Navel had to exist even in the original timeline.

Seems to me that Gaea's Navel is just some weird time warp place, and quite possibly a location warp, too, since El Nido is remote and probably not visited by prehistoric man.

It must have always been so, though I can't imagine how or why.  I imagine Lucca would find it all fascinating.  

OdF

[SilentMartyr]

Leah MIGHT be Ayla's mother. There is no solid evidence that it is true. Just because she wanted to name her kid Ayla means nothing, for all we know she might have had a boy.

[DeweyisOverrated]

Yeah, I personally believe that one quote at the end was more of an homage to the original CT than anything.  

(shudders at Gaea's music   )

[Chrono'99]

Perhaps Gaea's Navel is a wacky island which once sunk, then had somehow risen from the sea because of the nearby Frozen Flame? I know it's total non-sense, but that's exactly what happened to Giant's Claw in CT. In that case the trigger was Lavos, in Gaea's case it could be the Flame...

(shudders at the Prehysterics' berserk dance )

[Sentenal]

Perhaps Gaea's Navel is a wacky island which once sunk, then had somehow risen from the sea because of the nearby Frozen Flame? I know it's non-sense, but that's exactly what happened to Giant's Claw in CT. In that case the trigger was Lavos, in Gaea's case it could be the Flame...

(shudders at the Prehysterics' berserk dance )

Well, Giant's Claw was kinda underground not because it sunk, but because Lavos landed on it.

I think this place isn't visible on the World map in CT because it would have been a tiny island.  I think it has been mostly agreed upon that the world size, and the town size are exagerated in the game.

[Chrono'99]

I still think its existence is due to the Flame though. The Chronopolitans claim that the Flame has a weird force field or something. Also, I'm not sure but I believe Starky's spaceship fell from the sky because of the Flame's presence.

Mmh... maybe the Flame did crash on El Nido like Lavos did on Tyran's Lair? The consequence would be less spectacular of couse, but they exist: the rocks around the archipelago forms a circle which totally surrounds the El Nido sea (like a crater would).

[Sentenal]

Good point.  I guess its plausiable.

[Zaperking]

Starky's mission is to envade the Earth and kill the humans I think, and stop Lavos too I think.

Gaea's Navel is high above ground, it's so high that you need to fly a wingapeed. If you cant see, the land on the island is all above a towering cliff.

Also, Zeal was not around El Nido, and if the FF was in the Mammon Machine, then it would be around the Zenan continent. This kind of proves that the flame was found there anyway, that's how the central regime found it and gave it to Chronopolis in the Crono time line. Then there was the time crash, so 2 flames would exist anyway, one in Chonopolis, and one in Zenan continent that would be found in the future with Chronopolis so a new Chronopolis is made.

Also, It could be that Leah is Ayla's mother. Most likely because the Dinosaurs on the island are still primative, hence no evolution. Which might mean that it's a worm hole to 65,000,000BC prior, or that Leah is naming her child Ayla after Ayla (the great).

[ZeaLitY]

Well, save for that the El Nido sea was chosen for its strange magnetic properties. This has been often interpreted to mean the Flame was found there.

[Legend of the Past]

Well, save for that the El Nido sea was chosen for its strange magnetic properties. This has been often interpreted to mean the Flame was found there.

Really? Where does it say that?

[Chrono'99]

Also, Zeal was not around El Nido, and if the FF was in the Mammon Machine, then it would be around the Zenan continent.

If the FF was in the Mammon Machine. There's nothing which hint at it though. It was stated in RD, but that doesn't mean it's valid for CC.

It's interesting that the MM (Black Omen) is located at the center of the CT world map and El Nido would be located somewhere at the Southwest. We know that Lavos crashed at the center of the world map, and since he crashed in a Northeast-Southwest direction, the Frozen Flame which broke off his shell would indeed fall somewhere at the Southwest of the crash site (Tyran's Lair/Black Omen etc.)... in El Nido.

Anyway, the FF can teleport so it doesn't really matter.

[Legend of the Past]

Anyway, the FF can teleport so it doesn't really matter.

Yeah, maybe the Flame can simpley move on it's own will?