The Entity's Purpose

[V_Translanka]

He made his Pocket Dimension or at least a way into it, how far of a stretch is it to a couple gates?

[AuraTwilight]

Hang on, who here actually said Lavos could create Gates though?

Despite the fact that he's nearly Godly?

I remember thinking this a while ago. I always assumed Lavos could see into the future and saw his defeat, but yet he also saw the TD spawning from his defeat, so he chose to die knowing that a bigger manace was heading for Crono and the world. But, once again, Belthesar outsmarted the pesky porcupine!

Even if that was possible, what the hell would Lavos gain from that? He's not Satan or some demon/dark force with an agenda for destruction. He's motivated by the evolution of his species, and the Time Devourer would kinda mess that up.

Like I said...This is assuming that the Entity is making things happen as they happen, i.e. changing things before the outcomes present themselves...The Entity doesn't meet it's doom until Lavos awakens and pwnz it. The Entity cannot begin it's plan until that point in time. Thus, the Ocean Palace gates are not the Entity's creations. Also, like I said, Magus says that the gate that stranded him in the Middle Ages was the result of Lavos.

So? It begins it's plan in 1999, who cares? It can manipulate time in every OTHER time period. Why can't it move the Guru's? Just playing Devil's Advocate.

[SilentMartyr]

Why would the Entity have gated Magus back to 12000 and the group to 65000000 you ask?

Simple.

The group had just learned from Magus that he was not the creator of Lavos. The Entity needed to get Ayla with the group, and show the group Lavos's Origin. Magus was gated back to 12000 so that he could be shown that he alone is unable to destroy Lavos, but without his own demise. Thus he would join the group, completing the team.

[Zaperking]

You forgot that they can choose to kill Magus. And in the end, it's his decision anyway.

[Lordchander]

Even if that was possible, what the hell would Lavos gain from that? He's not Satan or some demon/dark force with an agenda for destruction. He's motivated by the evolution of his species, and the Time Devourer would kinda mess that up.

Oh but he does have an agenda for destruction! Why the fuck would he destroy the entire planet in the end!? So waht, so he can spawn a few more porcupines? I see no point to why Lavos actually did destroy the world if his agenda is to be an evolutionary master.

[Legend of the Past]

In fact, if the Planet's death means he'll evolve, he would do it...

[V_Translanka]

I've always seen the planet's death as just part of Lavos' evolutionary/spawning cycle. It completely saps a planet of life so that it can spawn (and thus repeat the cycle), not for some self-satisfying power hunger...

[AuraTwilight]

Oh but he does have an agenda for destruction! Why the fuck would he destroy the entire planet in the end!? So waht, so he can spawn a few more porcupines? I see no point to why Lavos actually did destroy the world if his agenda is to be an evolutionary master.

You truly don't know anything. Maybe he was making the habitat suitable for, possibly, his thousands of children. Not to mention that it must have been sapping the planet's energy for something. The way I see it, Lavos destroys the enviornment (plants, ozone, etc.) so that it's easier for the Lavos Spawns to get to the planet's thermal energies and fossil fuels or something. The destruction of everything on the planet is something Lavos doesn't care about. It doesn't matter if humans live or not because it's irrelevent. They were only created to boost his evolution. The Time Devourer would be a very BAAAD thing for Lavos.

[Zaperking]

Human's weren't created for or by Lavos.. He simply got them in contact with the Frozen Flame so their evolution could speed up, probably at the rate that he sucks up the planet's energy. That or Lavos would die one day like after his spawn are born.

[AuraTwilight]

I mean present day humans. Not like, the human genome. He "created" humans as we know them today.

[Zaperking]

Only if you mean by mutating them.

[Lordchander]

He "created" humans as we know them today.

Only in a sense. Lavos himself didnt really do it, more the Frozen Flame did.

You truly don't know anything

Please Aura. No one wants anyone hating each other here at the forums, so dont let it start now. Here, we discuss like friends, not arguing like enemies. And everyone has to learn something, its not like we all just enter this forum knowing every possible thing in the Chronoverse, some ppl just may not understand things as well as others.      So plz, no bad friendships  

[SilentMartyr]

You forgot that they can choose to kill Magus. And in the end, it's his decision anyway.

More like I brushed aside that they could kill Magus, since it is common belief that he joins the group in the "accepted ending". Obviously its his decision, hell it was Crono's decision to have Marle accompany him, and that plays a much larger role than having Magus and the Entity banked on it.

[AuraTwilight]

Only in a sense. Lavos himself didnt really do it, more the Frozen Flame did.

Doesn't change a thing. Lavos and the Frozen Flame are one and the same.

[V_Translanka]

>_>

Not really...Just because the FF originally came from Lavos, that does not mean that it is Lavos. Lavos doesn't seem to control the FF and heck, most of the evidence points to the FF having it's own kind of seperate conciousness apart from Lavos...