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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2005, 11:28:08 pm »
One might also ask the reverse.

Personally, I'd rather see a new game, but I don't see what would be so terrible about a remake.  Games get remade all the time anymore, and I have yet to see one that was a "series-killer."

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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2005, 11:31:19 pm »
I would like to see the argument for the converse, though.

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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2005, 11:47:39 pm »
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One might also ask the reverse.


Ok, I'll answer.

A new game brings a plethra of new horizons. Addition to the story, ability to add new fans turned off by the first two games, more wonderful original music to hear, a chance to breathe new life into RPG's in general, and the ability to correct mistakes made with older games.

A remake wouldn't help any of those aspects, with the exception of the last point, but only to a certain degree. All a remake would do is show how large the Chrono community is, which a new game can just as easily do.

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« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2005, 12:24:25 am »
If you guys don't want to support it, that's fine...  But I'd rather not be seeing negative stuff like "OMG thiz iz guna b tha end of da Chrono sereez!!!11!1!1"  Support, or not support.  That's your choice, but I have yet to see any proof that it could actually be BAD for the Chrono community or the series itself.

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« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2005, 01:07:22 am »
And we have yet to see any proof of it being good for the series...

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« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2005, 01:10:02 am »
Well, the possibility of a remake is always open. Hollywood right now is remaking countless movies, and series like Ninja Gaiden have been brought back after years of death on the NES. However, the possibility for a new title decreases with time, as popularity wanes and the creators move on as it sets in to accepted fact that the series is finished. If a remake came first and weren't very good, it would jeopardize hope for an actual new game.

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« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2005, 01:13:58 am »
The creation of a remake and its effect on the series is purely subjective from the perspective of the gamer; thus, we cannot safely conclude whether or not a Chrono Trigger remake would have a positive or negative effect upon the series as a whole.

Please stop this senseless arguing; it is taking discussion beyond the river Styx.

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« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2005, 02:40:01 am »
Thank you, Hazy...  You expressed my point exactly.  Support or not, it's each individual's choice.  But let's stop the arguing and the doomsday talk, ok?

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« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2005, 04:32:21 am »
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The creation of a remake and its effect on the series is purely subjective from the perspective of the gamer; thus, we cannot safely conclude whether or not a Chrono Trigger remake would have a positive or negative effect upon the series as a whole.

Please stop this senseless arguing; it is taking discussion beyond the river Styx.


And straight down the road to Aidoneos' hall, or mayhap even dreaded Tartaros. Just watch for out that Kerberos doesn't get it.

Personally, however, as interesting as I think a remake would be, I am inclined to be wary. Firstly, I agree with ZeaLitY on most if not all his points. But beyond this, a remake with better graphics does not guarantee it to be better, nor even nearly as good, as the original. This, coupled with the fact that the original game - partially due to its exquisite presentation and partially due to an effect called nostalgia - would be exceedingly hard to live up to, and nearly impossible to emulate well enough in order to satisfy fans. These things make me inclined to think that a sequel would be better. If for nothing else, the greatest point in RPGs is usually the story. Well, good as it is, we know the Chrono Trigger story, as well as the Chrono Cross one. To do it again would tire it.

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« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2005, 06:43:51 am »
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Quote from: Hazy Vision
The creation of a remake and its effect on the series is purely subjective from the perspective of the gamer; thus, we cannot safely conclude whether or not a Chrono Trigger remake would have a positive or negative effect upon the series as a whole.

Please stop this senseless arguing; it is taking discussion beyond the river Styx.



And straight down the road to Aidoneos' hall, or mayhap even dreaded Tartaros. Just watch for out that Kerberos doesn't get it.


Rofflecopters. I have a feeling you and I will get along.

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« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2005, 07:29:40 am »
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I have yet to see any proof that it could actually be BAD for the Chrono community or the series itself.

How about that whole speech from the Chrono developpers in the interview?

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« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2005, 12:31:26 pm »
If you think that a remake would seriously change anything about the originals, you're retarded. The originals will always be there. You can't tarnish something by making something new that looks like it only better.

A remake could be a good thing because it would introduce new gamers into the series from the beginning. It would also introduce them to the awesome characters and the storyline, both of which deserve the credit (more than newer games I say). Any remake I can think of should only be remade in 1) graphics (of course) 2) sound quality (no more MIDI plz) and 3) translation, which would be especially important in CT's case since, as Ted's said (hey! that rhymes!), over half of the script was taken out in the NA release! I think that reason number 3 alone would be well worth the remake.

Personally though, I agree w/ZeaLitY, I'd rather have a whole new game and let the translation come fan-made (c'mon RPGOne! hurry that shit up! :P). I'd like to see CT in a new light and would like new gamers to be amazed by it in that way as well, but I'd rather see a more expandature onto the series...

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« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2005, 12:32:38 pm »
I think there's a difference b/w CT being remade, and others games being remade.

First off, I think the only games we can really talk about being remade are RPG's.  Stuff like Super Dodgeball, etc being remade don't count in my book.

With that being said, I don't know of any RPG being remade.  The only possible one that there are rumors of is FFVII.  Whether I agree with that or not, here's what makes it different.  One, it has a MUCH larger cult following.  Two, since its really a game within a series, there's no room for sequels, unlike the Chrono series.  (I'm ignoring the first person shooter crap that's coming form Dirge of Cerebus).  Where in the Chrono Series can become bigger by making a sequel, FFVII can't.

I think graphics has a lot to do with this as well.  I think people came to love the sprite-action of CT, with the top down view.  I personally wouldn't want to see this changed, which it obviously would be in a remake.  FFVII, on the other hand, wasn't really about the graphics.  No one really fell in love with the blocky, 4 colored characters.  Updated graphics for the game wouldn't hurt it in the slightest.

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« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2005, 12:49:54 pm »
I'd count FFIV in FFC as a remake. Also, I'd definately count FF: Origins and FF: Dawn of Souls both as being remakes. There's also a Seiken Densetsu game, I believe, that was remade on w/e Nintendo handheld...Probably GBA...But I dunno...

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Uh...Dirge of Cerberus isn't a FPS...

Also, FFVII was the top of it's game graphics-wise when it came out, especially when competing w/the other RPGs of the time like Beyond the Beyond and Grandstream Saga...>_<

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« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2005, 01:25:22 pm »
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With that being said, I don't know of any RPG being remade.  The only possible one that there are rumors of is FFVII.


Don't forget Lunar: The Silver Star and Lunar: Eternal Blue, both for Sega CD.  Both were for a failed system and had a small cult following, and both got remakes for Sony Playstation.  Granted, they kept the top-down view (as that was still the most efficient way to do things, as 3D stuff was still not solid yet), but both games were remade and did very well.  They were HIGHLY anticipated among their communities, they added a lot to the storyline (well, the Silver Star remake did anyway) and were well worth their weight in gold for the fans of the classic series who wanted to see the old game -- which was made on a budget -- polished up and given the treatment it deserved.