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« Reply #105 on: October 07, 2005, 11:12:30 pm »
Ummm...yeah...something like that

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« Reply #106 on: October 08, 2005, 01:21:26 am »
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Lord J esq, unless your Russian Orthadox Christian, than shut your dirty trap. I know what I can do and cant. I can condemn people for being sinners, but I can not judge them truely if they are evil and will go to hell.
"Sinning is a waste of food.... Sinners go to hell" < Condeming
"You're going to go to hell because you sin" < Judging.

There's no semantic difference between the two terms, even in the example you just provided. Looking it over, I think what you're talking about is that, according to your worldview, God is the only executor of a judgment, whereas ordinary people could make the same judgment but would lack the executory power. In other words, only God can actually send a person to Hell. That's well and good, but it is incidental to the fact that condemning is just a specific case of judging. It looks to me as though you're just trying to bolster your own sense of moral rectitude by claiming to be able to be aware of another's sins, yet possessed of a humility deep enough to compel you not to deliver the due punishment upon said person for those sins. In other words, you're taking an ego trip at the expense of your fellows.

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« Reply #107 on: October 08, 2005, 02:54:48 am »
Not really, since I usually don't talk like that to people. If they do something wrong, or ask me something like "do you like to steal" i'd saying "Stealing is a sin, I don't want to go to hell" etc.

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« Reply #108 on: October 08, 2005, 03:57:28 am »
What if you are really poor, and you need food? In my religion you aren't judged...condemned...you aren't punished if you steal food

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« Reply #109 on: October 08, 2005, 04:06:56 am »
In my one it is. If you're poor, and starving, then it only proves that you're a sinner and your bad luck is done by God, that and all your sins have come to your new life because you sinned to much in your past life.

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« Reply #110 on: October 08, 2005, 04:14:50 am »
Do you believe in reincarnation? How come the Christianitys are so different?

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« Reply #111 on: October 08, 2005, 05:41:27 am »
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This is a not so subtly crafted troll on your part, Josh.  You could use a metaphor to convey your argument, but this is a deliberate personal attack on your opponents.

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« Reply #112 on: October 08, 2005, 06:37:33 am »
Ha ha, now you are the one that is immature.
Maybe you should investigate other religions other than the one you have been brought up with (one of the Christianities no doubt) and than judge. I do not believe in original sin, and i don't believe in left hander being evil. We believe that the angel who writes down bad deeds lives in the left arm, but that doesn't mean the left is evil. Plus, i clean my shit with my left....
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« Reply #113 on: October 08, 2005, 07:44:48 am »
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« Reply #114 on: October 08, 2005, 04:58:30 pm »
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Ha ha, now you are the one that is immature.
Maybe you should investigate other religions other than the one you have been brought up with (one of the Christianities no doubt) and than judge. I do not believe in original sin, and i don't believe in left hander being evil. We believe that the angel who writes down bad deeds lives in the left arm, but that doesn't mean the left is evil. Plus, i clean my shit with my left....
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It's quite telling to see in you that the old prejudices against sinistrality are still alive and well here in the modern world! The only thing that lives in the left arm, or, more specifically, the left hand--other than flesh and bone and such--is an artistic potential for the unmade handiworks of man, the same thing that lives in the right hand. And that's a metaphor.

Anyhow, it's all in good humor. I just figured that Zaper's ridiculous claim deserved an equally ridiculous reply. Remember what he said, after all:

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If you're poor, and starving, then it only proves that you're a sinner...

I reserve the right to mock that sort of rubbish every day of the week.

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« Reply #115 on: October 08, 2005, 05:06:18 pm »
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Anyhow, it's all in good humor. I just figured that Zaper's ridiculous claim deserved an equally ridiculous reply. Remember what he said, after all:

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If you're poor, and starving, then it only proves that you're a sinner...

I reserve the right to mock that sort of rubbish every day of the week.


Actually, we lefties are better than the rest of you.

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« Reply #116 on: October 08, 2005, 09:45:43 pm »
Lefties are better because I'm one.

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« Reply #117 on: October 08, 2005, 09:49:42 pm »
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Lefties are better because I'm one.

I wish you hadn't said that. Now I don't believe in nothin' no more...

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« Reply #118 on: October 08, 2005, 11:40:44 pm »
My fears are petty mundane.  I'm afraid about not being able to provide for my family, or worse yet, becoming a burden on them due to illness, injury, or just plain ol' bad choices.  

Yeah, you hit the big 2-6 and knock the wife up, and everything changes.  Even your fears.

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« Reply #119 on: October 09, 2005, 01:16:12 am »
I have nothing against lefties, where did you pick that up?