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Lordchander

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The "Entity" or the "Planet" which one?
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2005, 07:22:07 am »
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I never said that the Entity which was a God was the dying planet. God is another entity that created the Planet. Th Planet is dying and God wants to destroy Lavos because of it


Hang on, you're basically implying that there is actually two beings:

a) The Entity

b) The Planet (now obviously here im talking about both the physical planet and the spiritual planet; and when I say spiritual i mean there is like some part of the Entity that is with the physical planet so that when it (the physical planet) is destroyed (by Lavos), the Entity then seems to die with it)

Is that what u mean?

Maybe the Entity acts as something like the Holy Trinity: God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, all different but all the same.

God: The big Entity
Jesus: Crono (just kidding ^_^) really, I havent an idea who Jesus could represent here. Any ideas?
Holy Spirit: The Planet, the thing that wants Crono to fix time.

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Anyway, Who knows for sure. If and when CB comes out, they might prove you all wrong


Now wouldn't that be funny. Come to think of it, imagine just how much stuff CB might reveal that compeletly screws up all of the hundreds of theories here. That would be funny.  :lol:

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« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2005, 07:47:19 am »
I think Zaperking was just saying that there could be a god in the series that created the entity we knew and that this god could also be considered an entity of sorts...but perhaps I need to reread previous posts...>_<

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Jesus: Crono


Let's not swipe ludicrous ideas from the Chrono Testament, shall we? :lol:

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Anyway, Who knows for sure. If and when CB comes out, they might prove you all wrong


Now wouldn't that be funny. Come to think of it, imagine just how much stuff CB might reveal that compeletly screws up all of the hundreds of theories here. That would be funny. :lol:


It would only be funny in the aspect that that's exactly what people said about CC before it came out 8)

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« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2005, 06:54:33 pm »
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Maybe the Entity acts as something like the Holy Trinity: God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, all different but all the same.

God: The big Entity
Jesus: Crono (just kidding ^_^) really, I havent an idea who Jesus could represent here. Any ideas?
Holy Spirit: The Planet, the thing that wants Crono to fix time.


If there IS a Trinity, it's probably the Hindu trinity. Both because there's more Hindis in Japan than there are Christians, and since it simply works better.

Brahma the Creator: Entity
Vishnu the Preserver: Planet
Shiva the Destroyer: Lavos

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« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2005, 07:13:39 pm »
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If there IS a Trinity, it's probably the Hindu trinity. Both because there's more Hindis in Japan than there are Christians, and since it simply works better.

I'm pretty sure there are more Christians in Japan than Hindis.

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« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2005, 10:08:10 pm »
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If there IS a Trinity, it's probably the Hindu trinity. Both because there's more Hindis in Japan than there are Christians, and since it simply works better.

I'm pretty sure there are more Christians in Japan than Hindis.


There aren't really a significant population of either.

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« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2005, 01:32:50 am »
How's about this? Simplest answer for the original question of this thread:

the Entity calls on our heroes to save the Planet from Lavos.

The Planet is fated to die, but the Entity doesn't want that to happen.

So, I guess, the Entity is separate from the Planet.

I don't think the Entity is a God, or much less the Planet itself; it's just an "entity" (my apologies for the circular definition) that sympathizes and doesn't want to see the Planet destroyed.

I guess, I think of the Entity as a "Watcher" or "Observer." Even if it's a God, it's like the God of our own world; it doesn't take an active role in the world itself, but acts through people.

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« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2005, 03:23:16 am »
Thinking that the Entity is some figure watching over everything is rediculous though as it goes against one of the reasons for thinking of the idea of the Entity in the first place...In the discussion of the Entity it's state that it's the Entity that is reliving it's life through these specific events in time. Is this supposed entity that is watching over everything dying? No, it's the Planet. The Planet's the Entity.

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« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2005, 09:59:47 am »
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Maybe the Entity acts as something like the Holy Trinity: God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, all different but all the same.

God: The big Entity
Jesus: Crono (just kidding ^_^) really, I havent an idea who Jesus could represent here. Any ideas?
Holy Spirit: The Planet, the thing that wants Crono to fix time.


If there IS a Trinity, it's probably the Hindu trinity. Both because there's more Hindis in Japan than there are Christians, and since it simply works better.

Brahma the Creator: Entity
Vishnu the Preserver: Planet
Shiva the Destroyer: Lavos


You know, this is honestly the best idea I've heard yet.

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« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2005, 06:37:56 pm »
Thanks. I thought it was pretty cool myself ^_^

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« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2005, 12:59:42 am »
I always just assumed that the Entity was the Planet. In the campfire conversation they talk about the flashbacks before a person dies, and Lucca or Marle mentions that the flashback memories would probably be the painful ones. I mean, look at the time periods in CT. 65mil BC, Lavos lands. 12'000, the Mammon machine allows Lavos to pretty much reshape the planet (? I think so, anyway). In 600 there's the war between Guardia & the Mystics, and Magus is trying to summon Lavos. 1000 is when the whirlpool started appearing (Well.. I'd assume so. I doubt there's any evidence), 1999 is Lavos day & finally 2300 could be the point at which the planet really just croaks it after 300 years of Lavos leeching it. These would all be pretty painful memories for the Planet, so there would be specific Time Gates there. I think it's just pure coincidence that led Crono & Marle into 600, which set in motion their discovery of Lavos and so on.

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« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2005, 06:40:24 pm »
Exactly. While the Entity created the Gates, I doubt it was actually AWARE that it was creating the Gates. Perhaps it's psychic energy (or whatever) was manifesting as the Gates similarly to how teenagers can, in some stories, create poltergeists. The Entity is merely symbolic and has no direct hand to play. It's a Deus Ex Machina

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« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2005, 05:21:08 pm »
So you are saying it unintentionally creates these gates, at the exact time that they are needed, without any planning or thought involved at all? The chances of that occuring are astronomically small.

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« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2005, 06:17:56 pm »
Meh. It was just a thought. Maybe it's able to see everything that's happening from the player's point of view (Player=Planet? Woah, anyway...) and is kind've dreaming, but it's dreams aren't lucid. However, when the players are in need of a Gate, like when Lavos crashed, the Planet might worry and hope for their survival, unintentionally causing a Gate.

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« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2005, 11:14:56 pm »
Now it seems like we're getting into territory where Occam's razor is but a small dot on the horizon...:roll:

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« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2005, 05:43:09 pm »
Yea, but V_T it's fun reading all these incredible sets of events that need to occur for these thoeries to work.