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Zaperking

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Re: Belthasar in El Nido
« Reply #60 on: September 09, 2005, 10:03:13 pm »
I had always thought that because Robo and Doan went to 1000AD, they gained TTI. So when they went back to their time, they arrived in a new future, and they still had their TTI. So maybe they were not born, but they still exist from that moment on.

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Re: Belthasar in El Nido
« Reply #61 on: September 10, 2005, 04:32:10 am »
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except y'know, Doan lived over 300 years after the Day of Lavos, so Doan wouldn't "remember" anything about that day, not to mention that I doubt anyone noticed the trio was there. My theory is that Lucca could've travelled to the future before Lavos was defeated and brang Doan back, assuming she's not canonically in your party. Then, when Doan goes back to his own time, OMG TIME BASTARD! Game over. and King Zeal, you need to take a chill pill. Not even I was that arrogant.

Doan is the descendant of the Arris Director from 1,999 AD. This director (for some reason) recognizes Lavos when he saw it and calls it by its name. He could have seen the party on his screens (especially if they were crashing into Lavos's shell using the Epoch).

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Re: Belthasar in El Nido
« Reply #62 on: September 10, 2005, 05:01:28 am »
He would have seen his great great great great great great great great great great great grandmother and father there then.

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Re: Belthasar in El Nido
« Reply #63 on: September 11, 2005, 01:04:12 am »
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The only paradox is that Doan shouldn't be all scraggly nor have memory of the teens helping them. Since this is after Lavos was killed the future would have already been fixed, and Doan wouldn't exist as the person he is before.


He shouldn't have any memory of the bad future.  However, he SHOULD remember the Chrono Team helping them, as it was his timeline in which they fought Lavos and defeated him.  In his timeline, it should be ancient history already.

Perhaps what Doan meant, when he said, "...and gave us hope," is that the story he heard of Crono & Co defeating Lavos in 1999AD was an inspiration to the people of 2300AD.

Perhaps, even though they still survive, the people of 2300AD have fallen on hard times, and the only reason they continue on is the thought that the some medieval-uns some centuries ago fought to save them from certain destruction?

Or something like that.

OR. PERHAPS.

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...the script writers DID NOT INTEND for the story to retain any sense of cohesion! Perhaps, in a few places, there were some unknown inconsistencies left!

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Re: Belthasar in El Nido
« Reply #64 on: September 11, 2005, 02:52:44 am »
Masato Kato wouldn't allow that >.>

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Re: Belthasar in El Nido
« Reply #65 on: September 11, 2005, 11:39:30 am »
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Masato Kato wouldn't allow that >.>

Masato Kato wouldn't allow what?

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Re: Belthasar in El Nido
« Reply #66 on: September 11, 2005, 03:04:25 pm »
Chrono Trigger's general framework was laid out by another person, and I'm not sure which. Masato Kato was given the task of developing specific scenarios and events in the eras, and bringing individual happenings together. He masterminded the entire era of 12000 B.C. (now that is amazing) and took the helm of the Chrono series after Trigger. Regardless, he did not have full control over the story, and this is probably why the Marle Disappearance Paradox exists. As for the Marle Descendant Paradox, it's possible that the same clash of ideas caused an inconsistency here. It would be very easy to fix it if Marle's ancestorship were redirected to Kino, but apparently this was not addressed in Trigger's development.

It's likely that he would have fixed things were Trigger his game, simply because he wrote the entire plot of Chrono Cross. That, my friends, is scenario writing skill. It's one thing to fully comprehend the plot, and it's another entirely to have written that bad boy.