Time Devourer

[Zaperking]

So, It still says Har-Lay, which sounds like Harle. So shh

[Kazuki]

she doesn't really look that much different from a normal human.

Granted, you don't see much of her, plus her face is covered in all that damn make-up.

That may be so, but niether does anybody else, so I'm not sure how that affects the point.

[nightmare975]

she doesn't really look that much different from a normal human.

Granted, you don't see much of her, plus her face is covered in all that damn make-up.

That may be so, but niether does anybody else, so I'm not sure how that affects the point.

I was just saying that it is impossible to even figure out if she's a demi-human or just faking it. Heck, the dragons could of made her full human for all we know. Or maybe she has scales under all that makeup.

[Kazuki]

No, she doesn't have scales beneath the makeup. She's too "OMG t3h hawt."

>_>. Yeah, I'm weird...though in my mind she does have SOME attractive qualities (in the face, at least.)

[nightmare975]

No, she doesn't have scales beneath the makeup. She's too "OMG t3h hawt."

>_>. Yeah, I'm weird...though in my mind she does have SOME attractive qualities (in the face, at least.)

You're not weird, about everybody on these forums has a crush on Harle.

[Zaperking]

Maybe because she's better than Kid. For one, I like Schala better than Harle. But I despise Kid and how they mutilated Schala's memory.

Besides, I never use Harle except when I can, and she's stronger than Serge for some reason. she hits 1000 on bosses with her strongest attack, magic usually doing 800damage Oo

[Lord_Setheris]

But back onto the topic... the Time Devourer...

There are two or maybe three beings that made up the time devourer. Schala was the first and could be any on of these forms:

Schala immediately after the Ocean Palace incident
A clone or recreation of Schala made after died during the OP incident
A reflection of Schala's memories/emotions given physical form
A reworked version of Schala's original DNA

The second is Lavos, which could be any of these:

Lavos' Shell
Lavos' Core
Lavos' Inner Core
Lavos' Inner Core Bit
A Dead Lavos of any of the aformentioned forms
A living version of lavos from another dimension from any of the aformentioned forms

And, it is also possible that one of the following had a hand in it as well:

Lavos Spawn (living)
Lavos Spawn (dead)
The Mammon Machine

I have to say it looks more like the mammon machine to me.

[AuraTwilight]

Um....half of that is just crap you made up, isn't it?

1) We know it's Schala from the Ocean Palace incident for a fact.
2) It's heavily implied that this Lavos is Lavos from the erased future due to Crono's actions
3) It's either Lavos or a Lavos Spawn, not both. The Mammon Machine is also nothing more than a leech of Lavos' power, so it'd actually be detrimental to any fusion with it. It's heavily implied that the Dragon God is part of the Time Devourer.

[Zaperking]

Um....half of that is just crap you made up, isn't it?

1) We know it's Schala from the Ocean Palace incident for a fact.
2) It's heavily implied that this Lavos is Lavos from the erased future due to Crono's actions
3) It's either Lavos or a Lavos Spawn, not both. The Mammon Machine is also nothing more than a leech of Lavos' power, so it'd actually be detrimental to any fusion with it. It's heavily implied that the Dragon God is part of the Time Devourer.

The Mammon Machine can't be a leech without the Flame. The Flame escaped, so that's how Chronopolis got a hold of it. Had the Flame been in the Mammon Machine, Lavos should have died since Schala was right next to it, that's if the machine was there, which it probably was since it fell in the gate aswell with Schala.

[Tonjevic]

it would still be leeching energy from itself and channeling it back into itself, resulting in a loss of energy from said energy's transfer.

[Lord_Setheris]

it would still be leeching energy from itself and channeling it back into itself, resulting in a loss of energy from said energy's transfer.

That would result instead in a cyclic function that would good its energy at a regular level, but unstable. It is also likely that at this point it would have to find another source of energy just in case this cycle was ever broken.

Perhaps devouring time streams provides one with the energy from that entire universe? If this is true, one might even argue that the TD's plot was simply a survival plan.

[Laios]

The Time Devourer.  Wasn't the Dragon god just a projection of the TD's thoughts?  I guess if the Dragon god had been previously consumed by Lavos's power, it is posible for the TD to use it's physical form for it's link into reality.  That means that when the Dragon god was split, it was actually the TD using it's form.  By the way, what was used for Serge to enter into the Darkness of Time?  If I remember correctly, the portal was only open after the Dragon God is defeated and the Tower falls.  Could the death of the Dragon God caused the tear in the dimentional rift between reality and the Darkness of Time?  Also, the Frozen Flame was a shard of Lavos, yet it has it's own ability to think and corrupt things around it.  Doesn't that make them the same being it two seperate forms?  Finally, what did the Chrono Cross have to do with destroying the TD, I know it had to be used in conjunction with the other elements, but it was made using the broken dragon's tear from each dimention.  Where did the dragon's tear come from and who could've known to make an altar where two shattered pieces could be reunited?  It's been a while since I've played either of the games, but I think I know what I'm talking about.

Just as a side note.  Harly's name in Japanese is Tsukiyomi, correct?  I know that Tsuki = Moon, as for yomi, I'm not sure.  It could have some connection between her and the Dark Moon Dragon.

[Zaperking]

The Chrono Cross' power is to unify things, restore memories and transfer/unify them .

[AuraTwilight]

The Time Devourer. Wasn't the Dragon god just a projection of the TD's thoughts? I guess if the Dragon god had been previously consumed by Lavos's power, it is posible for the TD to use it's physical form for it's link into reality. That means that when the Dragon god was split, it was

actually the TD using it's form. By the way, what was used for Serge to enter into the Darkness of Time? If I remember correctly, the portal was only open after the Dragon God is defeated and the Tower falls. Could the death of the Dragon God caused the tear in the dimentional rift between reality and the Darkness of Time? Also, the Frozen Flame was a shard of Lavos, yet it has it's own ability to think and corrupt things around it. Doesn't that make them the same being it two seperate forms? Finally, what did the Chrono Cross have to do with destroying the TD, I know it had to be used in conjunction with the other elements, but it was made using the broken dragon's tear from each dimention. Where did the dragon's tear come from and who could've known to make an altar where two shattered pieces could be reunited? It's been a while since I've played either of the games, but I think I know what I'm talking about.

The Dragon God was originally it's own entity, but was then absorbed by the Time Devourer. Each Dragon God is it's own independant being, free from the Time Devourer's control, but they're fueled by it's power and exist as spirits. Serge entered the Darkness Beyond Time using a Time Egg. The Frozen Flame wasn't a sentient entity, but was directly controlled by Lavos and Schala. The Chrono Cross basically seperated the Time Devourer and Schala with divine power and erased the Time Devourer, repairing the broken dimensions as if they never split. The Dragon's Tear was an artifact made by the Reptites. Belthasar orchestrated the entire game of Chrono Cross.

Just as a side note. Harly's name in Japanese is Tsukiyomi, correct? I know that Tsuki = Moon, as for yomi, I'm not sure. It could have some connection between her and the Dark Moon Dragon.

Tsukiyomi means Dark Moon.

[Chrono'99]

Tsukiyomi is also the Shinto god (yeah, he's male) of the moon.