Nu?

[Zaperking]

Who says Lavos Magic (Which Schala's power is possibly coming from) is elemental whatsoever?

Shadow, Lightning, Fire and Water are innate, not the planets own elemental energy element magic whatever.

[GrayLensman]

Spekkio said that everything was based on the elements.

[CyberSarkany]

If this is true, what about these "non-elemental-attacks" like this dance thingy(the one you need a rock for) and the tornado attack of Ayla?, maybe it's some kind of bug...But what Element is a normal attack? Or is "physical-attack" considered as an own element?

[GrayLensman]

If this is true, what about these "non-elemental-attacks" like this dance thingy(the one you need a rock for) and the tornado attack of Ayla?, maybe it's some kind of bug...But what Element is a normal attack? Or is "physical-attack" considered as an own element?

My view is that a technique does not have an elemental effect unless it is based on pure elemental energy (magic).  A sword might be based on a combination of the elements, but it only produces a physical effect.  Similarly, a nonelemental technique is an incoherent mixture of all elements that doesn't have any particular effect.

[Legend of the Past]

An attack is energy, energy can take neutral form. Some techs (Like Lucca's flamethrower attack) are elemental, but I think Spekkio meant that all things are made from the combined balance of all elements. Homeostasis makes sure the body remains stable, and that's a good example of keeping 'the elemental powers' that build the body stable.

[AuraTwilight]

Who says that Lavos can't have bits of all four Innates, causing him to mix them into his own breed of magic that's insanely powerful and morally unethical to be weilded by humans? Just because EVERYTHING's based off those four elements doesn't mean they can't combine elements like elements in chemistry.

[Legend of the Past]

Agreed, except you brought a bad example. There are over 100 elements in chemistry, which sorta makes the number of possible mixtures too big.. There are much smaller numbers in this case, but I wholly agree on that idea. He created his own magic instead of nullifying the elemental powers... Though the Lavos Spawns had Shadow Magic, I think?

[ChronoMagus]

It should work... antipode is based on that concept so why can't Lavos do that?

[CyberSarkany]

The Lavos spawn in the black omen could also use water, and this fire bubble+the dark bomb.

[Xeli]

To bring the original topic of this thread back while still sticking with the topic on hand, I think Schala was actually a Nu in disguise!

[Zaperking]

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There is a rule about one word posts.

Anyway, When Spekkio said that everything was based on the elements, i think he meant the magical innate. The planets power is based on the actual 6 elements. Or in a way, those 6 elements all co inside to create the 4 magical elements

[SilentMartyr]

What would bring you to that conclusion Zaper?

[Zaperking]

What would bring you to that conclusion Zaper?

Well, back in CT, they were using those 4 magical innates as the example.
Once CC came out, the elements were shown. They are part of the planets power. But the elemenets are universal too I guess, but maybe from the Earth's point of view.

[AuraTwilight]

It could be that the four elements of CT and the six elements of CC are two interpretations of the same fundamental force. Perhaps the elements, in both interpretations, are emanations of one fundamental magical force, like the Sephirat emanations of God in the Kabbalah or something.

[Zaperking]

It could be that the four elements of CT and the six elements of CC are two interpretations of the same fundamental force. Perhaps the elements, in both interpretations, are emanations of one fundamental magical force, like the Sephirat emanations of God in the Kabbalah or something.

Yes, that sounds reasonable.