Nu?

[Paradox]

'All life begins with guardians and ends with Guardians'?

Nah. I think Nus embody dreams (Not unlike Masa and Mune), the dreams of the Planet. Therefore, the sentence would be 'All life begins with dreams and ends with dreams. that is the truth! That is my belief! At least for now...' Seems to resonate with Chrono's theme.

Maybe the entire thought of "beginning" doesn’t really relate to "creation". I do like the entire dream theory, but I feel like defending this. I take life "beginning" with Nu in the sense that they were there, guarding over life right from its beginning. So, more to the sense of "All life begins with (the) Nu" referring to the Nu in a plural sense, as in they begin one in the same. In the same idea life "ends" with Nu as in they'll be there, guarding over existence until all of creation comes to its inevitable end. Bit of a different take on Belthasar's statement, not as a theory of creation but as just a theory on the existence of the Nu themselves existing alongside life.

''All life begins with guardians and ends with Guardians'?

Yes, all life does begin with it's guardians and ends with it's guardians. Its really just a different gramatical sense. Not "with" as in it's its creating element, but "with" as in it's there when life begins.

[Legend of the Past]

WHY would life need Guardians? There were Nu before Lavos, but no Nu (Unless you count Belthy's, which he created) after Lavos' assault, in the time when life needs it most?

No, it's a good theory, but the Planet doesn't work this way. It defends it's own life, but it leaves it's inhabitants to their own devices.

[Paradox]

WHY would life need Guardians? There were Nu before Lavos, but no Nu (Unless you count Belthy's, which he created) after Lavos' assault, in the time when life needs it most?

No, it's a good theory, but the Planet doesn't work this way. It defends it's own life, but it leaves it's inhabitants to their own devices.

Hmm... s'true. My theory does have plenty of potholes in it. I think the Nu aren't there after Lavos' assault because this is a vital point in humanities run. They're just preserving the cycle, and once that cycle comes to its end they just fade out until the next "round" so to speak starts up. They're always there, in a sense, just not really doing anything. Yes, those silly humans did some pretty wild things with time. Jumped around it, found the end of it, changed it, studied it, but never did anything truly dangerous to it. The Nu watched, just to be safe, as a specific band of humans really got mixed up in some of the workings of time, and (I’m just thinking here) kept close tabs on a single human who started to know quite a bit about times workings (the Nu Belthasar "created" might have been a clever plan of the Nu to lul the brilliant minded gent into a sense of security and trust in it's companion and reveal his theories and ideas to it). As I said, I get way too into this. Basically all I’m saying is it’s easy to see why we’d need guardians when a band of kids can one day suddenly jump off to another time period and start changing history itself!

[Legend of the Past]

The Planet's aware of all that and can keep tabs on humans on it's own. The cycle of nature can fix itself, and there's no need to keep tabs. Besides, it's not like humans all jumped around the ages. Just few did. AND, might I add, the Time Crash seems like a sever enough damage to the time stream, but the Planet took care of itself, no? It doesn't need to keep tabs. If something happans, it takes care of it.

[Paradox]

The Planet's aware of all that and can keep tabs on humans on it's own. The cycle of nature can fix itself, and there's no need to keep tabs. Besides, it's not like humans all jumped around the ages. Just few did. AND, might I add, the Time Crash seems like a sever enough damage to the time stream, but the Planet took care of itself, no? It doesn't need to keep tabs. If something happans, it takes care of it.

Ah well then maybe the Nu are more of an added physical interpretation of that will to heal that the Planet has, or possibly some exterior force trying to keep the planet steady on it's course. I just think the Nu are guardians... and though it's a shaky theory I stand by it. Thanks for debating this with me though. I know I look like the stupid new guy with the crappy Guru recolor as his avatar, so thanks for your patience. For now, Imma take a break from all this CT theory and go watch some Clone High

[Legend of the Past]

You're welcome and have fun.

To continue the debate... I'm sorry, but the will to heal came after the beggining, while the Nu were there at the beggining.

If it's crappy and has plotholes, let's agree it's not a valid theory?

[Paradox]

You're welcome and have fun.

To continue the debate... I'm sorry, but the will to heal came after the beggining, while the Nu were there at the beggining.

If it's crappy and has plotholes, let's agree it's not a valid theory?

Agreed. Untill I work out some of the flaws in it the theory is as invalid as a "your mom" joke. I'm going to keep my belief in it though, and continue to refine it... yes, for now, I say no more.

[Legend of the Past]

Uh-huh. And, no offense (honestly), try to actually check it with the game. With the abundance of resources ZeaLitY and the Comepndium have to offer, you should have other peoples' opinions, quotes, definitons of people who have been theorizing about all things Chrono for years now.

[Zaperking]

Actually, on the note of the planet. It was stupid. It fell for Belthasar's plan. It was manipulated by Belthasar.

The idiotic planet summoned in a city, where hundreds of Dragonites were slaughtered. And then in the end of CC, not a single one that appeared is still alive, and their God.. The almighty Dragon God that is the incarnation of all the elements from the Reptite Dimension.. was killed... I'd think that the Reptite dimension would be a total ruin. If the power of the planet (The Dragon God) can be defeated, that makes the planet look pretty weak.

[Legend of the Past]

Serge was neither a messenger of humanity or the Planet, he was a messenger of his own will to be born into the world.

Also, the Planet isn't stupid, it's just not as omniscent as you might of imagined it: It doesn't know what every little human is thinking.

[AuraTwilight]

There's always the possibility that the Planet cooperated with Belthasar's plan because it didn't like the option of all of Time/Space being devoured by the thing it JUST got rid of.

[GrayLensman]

There's always the possibility that the Planet cooperated with Belthasar's plan because it didn't like the option of all of Time/Space being devoured by the thing it JUST got rid of.

I prefer to think that Belthasar was in cooperation with the planet's plan.

[Zaperking]

There's always the possibility that the Planet cooperated with Belthasar's plan because it didn't like the option of all of Time/Space being devoured by the thing it JUST got rid of.

I prefer to think that Belthasar was in cooperation with the planet's plan.

But then we'd forget that Belthasar only wants to save Schala. Had she not been fused with him, he'd have an easier time. It's just the fact that Lavos encaged her, and is draining her godlike powers that that will cause him to turn into the TD.

[Legend of the Past]

I woulden't call Scahala's powers godlike. She's not omniscent, nor is she omnipotent. She's extremely powerful, but not godlike.

Belthasar wanted to get rid of the TD AND free Schala. Those were the two long term purposes of Project Kid.

[Mystik3eb]

Schala's not even insanely powerful. She has loads of control over magic. She is able to manipulate it to a degree higher than anyone else...maybe. Who's to say Magus or Crono or the Gurus aren't even MORE capable? Or Lavos itself?

Schala's great, don't get me wrong, but she's not angelic. She's a gifted human, not the ultimate human.